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Seems to follow quite closely on the meeting between Horwath and Verster. Hamilton’s local journalists certainly would’ve paid that more attention than anyone in the Toronto sphere, especially given how low-key it was. By comparison with say, Eglinton, anyway.
 
Following up on this, starting to think this will all coalesce into Ford’s election campaign.

Confederation GO will be done in time for a spring election. May be a good time to execute on the half-hourly service to WH/Confed promise.

By then, the LRT’s RFQ process may be finalized, if not moving entirely onto RFP/design procurement. Word is that it’s not complicated and just needs to happen- a small timeframe. I won’t hold my breath for groundbreaking next year, but it’s possible.

Coordination issues should also be resolved now that it’s not ‘informally’ progressing. Big dogs will come in and tell the city and Metrolinx to straighten their issues out, if Verster didn’t already.

It all looks like a perfect pitch for Hamilton voters. Especially if Ford blames the Liberals for Toronto’s LRTs taking all the air till now.
 
Sunnyside said:
Following up on this, starting to think this will all coalesce into Ford’s election campaign.

Confederation GO will be done in time for a spring election. May be a good time to execute on the half-hourly service to WH/Confed promise.

By then, the LRT’s RFQ process may be finalized, if not moving entirely onto RFP/design procurement. Word is that it’s not complicated and just needs to happen- a small timeframe. I won’t hold my breath for groundbreaking next year, but it’s possible.

Coordination issues should also be resolved now that it’s not ‘informally’ progressing. Big dogs will come in and tell the city and Metrolinx to straighten their issues out, if Verster didn’t already.

It all looks like a perfect pitch for Hamilton voters. Especially if Ford blames the Liberals for Toronto’s LRTs taking all the air till now.
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From what I understand this should be quick.

Three big reasons for that;

1) The project is being split into multiple smaller contracts, and so some work can likely get started very quickly.

2) My understanding is that most of the design work was done in-house, meaning that there's limited design to do, but it will be moreso about the logistics and capabilities of the bidders.

3) The consortiums that will be bidding on this project are likely already largely known. Because we've been building LRTs now in the province for over a decade, we now have regular contractors who we will know have the qualifications to build them.
 
Chris R. said:
From what I understand this should be quick.

Three big reasons for that;

1) The project is being split into multiple smaller contracts, and so some work can likely get started very quickly.

2) My understanding is that most of the design work was done in-house, meaning that there's limited design to do, but it will be moreso about the logistics and capabilities of the bidders.

3) The consortiums that will be bidding on this project are likely already largely known. Because we've been building LRTs now in the province for over a decade, we now have regular contractors who we will know have the qualifications to build them.
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Precisely. And 3) ties into why I’ve suspected we’ve had to wait so long. We never had the capacity to deliver 4 LRTs concurrently— and perhaps barely our active 3. So those being pushed back directly impacted the HaLRT timeline as a result.

As for 1) and 2), I see no reason why these would have changed, and as planned will speed things up quite quickly. Utilities work is the big item here, so if those guys can get in while the rail system design is finalized, we’ll see a modest 2ish years of construction- similar to Finch W for time, but for fair amount more work.
 
Chris R. said:
From what I understand this should be quick.

Three big reasons for that;

1) The project is being split into multiple smaller contracts, and so some work can likely get started very quickly.

2) My understanding is that most of the design work was done in-house, meaning that there's limited design to do, but it will be moreso about the logistics and capabilities of the bidders.

3) The consortiums that will be bidding on this project are likely already largely known. Because we've been building LRTs now in the province for over a decade, we now have regular contractors who we will know have the qualifications to build them.
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Not likely the design was "in-house" per se, it was likely completed to 30% by the Technical Advisor consultant, which is Aecom for the Ham LRT. Project Companys for each contract (however it is split up) would then take the designs through 60, 90, 100, and construction. This is how it is/was done on Eglinton West Extension.

I am curious how the contracts will be split up given the project is relatively simple, unlike ECWE.
 
BrenWilson said:
Not likely the design was "in-house" per se, it was likely completed to 30% by the Technical Advisor consultant, which is Aecom for the Ham LRT. Project Companys for each contract (however it is split up) would then take the designs through 60, 90, 100, and construction. This is how it is/was done on Eglinton West Extension.

I am curious how the contracts will be split up given the project is relatively simple, unlike ECWE.
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Guess we will see at 2:30PM!
 
Given Aecom was hired in July I don't think there would be much time to get further than a 30% design, but from what I have seen on ECWE that 30% is doing a lot of lifting as many aspects of the design are basically locked in place to ensure the different contracts still integrate.

But yeah, excited for this afternoon.
 
BrenWilson said:
Given Aecom was hired in July I don't think there would be much time to get further than a 30% design, but from what I have seen on ECWE that 30% is doing a lot of lifting as many aspects of the design are basically locked in place to ensure the different contracts still integrate.

But yeah, excited for this afternoon.
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For sure. It likely means full-scale utility relocation can occur as soon as possible as a separate contract, which gives me hope of a 2025 start because that's pretty simple. Since the design is "locked" in terms of where it will actually be in the ROW they can do the finalizing engineering around the moved utilities.
 

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not too many surprises.. I do wonder what the hell this means though:

Once complete, the 14-kilometre Hamilton LRT will connect commuters to an expanded high-speed rail and GO network, offering service to McMaster University, City Hall, Tim Hortons Field, Eastgate Square, downtown Hamilton and other popular locations. The LRT line will offer residents fast and reliable service and connect workers to tens of thousands of well-paying jobs.
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Did VIA HSR get an extension to Downtown Hamilton or something? What?
 
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