Toronto Esports Performance Venue and Hotel | 112.23m | 30s | OverActive | Populous

AlvinofDiaspar said:
DRP isn't "the city".

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No, they're not. As I stated, "from this city" as opposed to "The City" where there is bit of a difference. So I consider their opinions not that far removed, regardless of how out of touch on in touch their views are and for good or bad.
 
Obsidian said:
It's not enough like the X-Hotel for the DRP
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LMAO, please, listen to @Northern Light and read what the DRP actually wrote before spouting this nonsense.

P.S. Just because a building looks weird and cool doesn't make it good architecture or urbanism. What do you expect the DRP to do, get all starry-eyed over this design and rubber stamp it because it looks like a weird space whale? Seems like a lot of people in this thread have convinced themselves that this "proposal" (which is, sorry to say, a pipe dream for much bigger and more important reasons than what the DRP thinks of it) is beyond critique based on some early marketing renders.
 
Obsidian said:
It's not enough like the X-Hotel for the DRP
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I will post a screenshot from the UT front page story on this:

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Proposed Esports Venue for Exhibition Place Out of Scale at DRP | UrbanToronto

OverActive Media's plans for a 7,000-seat Esports Performance Venue at Exhibition Place were presented recently to the Toronto Design Review Panel. Designed by Populous, an international firm specializing in stadium design, the project also includes a 30-storey hotel tower containing...
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interchange42 said:
... Meanwhile, there's been no indication yet that the proponents are anywhere close to finding the funding.
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smably said:
... this "proposal" (which is, sorry to say, a pipe dream for much bigger and more important reasons than what the DRP thinks of it) ...
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I assume this process must eventually reach some point when they get asked to prove that they have the money to build it?
 
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SubHuman said:
I assume this process must eventually reach some point when they get asked to prove that have the money to build it?
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The CNE Board will need that proof, as will the banks: if the proponents don't get financing, the scheme simply won't be realized.

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kotsy said:
If the DRP has no authority to enforce or penalize then couldn't the developer just ignore their recommendations and build what we see in the original design?
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In theory.............yes.....sorta (subject to the normal approvals process).......but not quite.............

UT ( Julian Mirabelli) did a great explainer on the DRP awhile back, I will share this excerpt:

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urbantoronto.ca

DRP 101: What Exactly is the Toronto Design Review Panel? | UrbanToronto

What Toronto's Design Review Panel does is not widely understood. While many UrbanToronto readers believe that the Panel have the power to approve or reject developments in Toronto, we explain how the panel actually functions to improve developments in the city.
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Which is to say, while there is no force-of-law making DRP comments binding...........ignoring them may subject you to a more challenging and labourious process through planning and Council.
 
Obsidian said:
It's not enough like the X-Hotel for the DRP
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I want to make it clear that my post was not suggesting that the DRP has final say in what gets built here. There seems some confusion from regulars I was stating otherwise. To which I suspect was rather due to my poor choice of words that lead to that confusion. And I'll attempt to be more clear about this in the future. My apologies for this. /bows
 
allengeorge said:
“The original vision for OAM’s esports stadium at Toronto’s Exhibition Place, pictured here, was deemed too bulky and “exciting” for the site along with other concerns cited by city planners and so the esports promoter will soon be introducing a more conservative design.”
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Too exciting? God forbid an entertainment complex instil excitement. That's akin to voting against a pageant contestant for being too attractive.
 
kotsy said:
If the DRP has no authority to enforce or penalize then couldn't the developer just ignore their recommendations and build what we see in the original design?
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I think what you should be worried about isn't that, but a proponent ignoring all that they have indicated they would execute - just look at proposal stage X vs final outcome X.

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https://www.sportsnet.ca/more/artic...ainment-facility-expected-privately-financed/
“I fully expect that our venue will be privately financed through the ownership of OverActive Media and our investor groups and others that we haven’t yet attracted to the business and also cooperatively with a strategic partner that we’ve been engaged with and talking to for some time,” said Overholt.
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"others that we haven't yet attracted' ? 🙄
Translation: We don't have the money to build this.
 
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From the Parkdale Residents Association:

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Ex Place Public Consultation x 2 – Oct. 28 & Nov. 2

Hotel X Phase 2 Concept Drawing There are two Public Consultations coming up regards Exhibition Place. The first is their semi-annual info session & public feedback – Oct. 28, 7-9 PM, and…
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The venue definitely looks like an improvement - not so sure about the hotel tower.

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