Tuscani01
Senior Member
The TTC is hardly the expert on fare integration. If anything, Metrolinx is doing a much better job of it already.
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The TTC is hardly the expert on fare integration. If anything, Metrolinx is doing a much better job of it already.
Tunafish13
Active Member
Update from the Victoria Park/O'Connor stop, more of these orange poles have been installed now. I have seen them at all the stops between Don Mills and Warden, and it's a bit hard to see but there is a tiny "Metrolinx" logo right at the bottom which seems a little odd for placement....
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Toronto transit users will be looking for the white and red signs of the TTC. Expect "lost" users.
From link.
syn
Senior Member
Strange. Why not stick with red and white?
sacred
Active Member
"Huh... tracks in the middle of the street with overhead wires and shelters nearby... what on earth could this be?"
Steve X
Senior Member
Rob Ford's crack smoking gravy train? Definitely want to avoid that. But I though they only runs in tunnels.
Adjei
Senior Member
Yes some here think the general public are a bunch of idiots..
44 North
Senior Member
Primarily shale. And yea other than south of Bloor it's fairly deep.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I wonder if Metrolinx considers those posts "decorative but functional design elements" or "threshold markers". I guess we will need to see what they put on the other mounts and the unadorned thinner square poles in the picture. I'm a bit worried because nowhere in their standard did it suggest the "T" logo goes on top of a coloured background signifying a line colour. What would they do if a red LRT and white LRT route met here? "T" on a candy cane? The whole point of a wayfinding standard is to come up with a complex wayfinding scenario and devise a coordinated solution so the outcome doesn't look haphazard. Here they have created what looks like a threshold marker which has "T" logo on line colour background, with no facility name, and no differentiation between the entrances. Not having a differentiation between entrances is actually a gap in the standard as published because without indication of Eastbound Platform "E" and Westbound Platform "W" for someone who doesn't know directions they are not going to know where to enter (which is even a bigger gap when the standard is applied to Tahoe Station on the Busway).
Steve X
Senior Member
Although we thin ML could do better, a tall pole like that really helps wayfinding. Without it, people won't be able to locate the entrance from far. It's much easier to figure out what side of the road is the entrance. However they should put a TTC subway sign on top. It would unify signage across the system. Or TTC could install these poles on all subway entrances
Tunafish13
Active Member
Very valid point, it doesn't make that much sense in the long run but I do think the unadorned thinner pole will also have information on it as it is located next to the ramp to get to the platform.
As for East and West signage, it is difficult to see in the recent pictures but if you go back to older pictures it is posted on the side of the shelters "East bound platform" and "westbound platform".
syn
Senior Member
THE WAR ON THE CAR
KhalilHeron
Active Member
I think the plan is to put diff stickers on it closer to opening one of which would be the ttc logoAlthough we thin ML could do better, a tall pole like that really helps wayfinding. Without it, people won't be able to locate the entrance from far. It's much easier to figure out what side of the road is the entrance. However they should put a TTC subway sign on top. It would unify signage across the system. Or TTC could install these poles on all subway entrances
W. K. Lis
Superstar
I remember after the Line 2 (then called the Bloor-Danforth Subway) opened on the Saturday, February 26, 1966, on the Monday, crowds of people still went and stood at the streetcar stops on Bloor Street or Danforth Avenue to wait for a streetcar that never came. You may have all the signs, radio & television & newspaper announcements, and talk, people will still not know what is happening.
Steve X
Senior Member
Uninformed doesn't make people stupid. TTC didn't do their communication well enough. Nowadays, they could be playing a message on the Eglinton buses telling them when Line 5 will open. Buses that intersect Eglinton could have the same message when approaching Eglinton. Chances are they won't do it and just leaving the opening date on an hourly announcement on the subway PA system.