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[nfitz]

The front page story says "the new terminal will also evetually serve intercity coach services which currently call in at Dundas and Bay Streets.". Unless I missed something, this is not true.

The press release unequivocally talks about intercity buses. The ministry's press office says it would be up to talks between city and Metrolinx. If Toronto chooses to keep the current bus terminal, I guess, it won't be true. But does that make any sense?

The city clearly hasn't signed on though - which shouldn't surprise anyone during an election. And the province and Metrolinx can't speak for city.

 

[caltrane74]

Do we know if this Bus Terminal is a single level terminal or a multi-level terminal?

I know it's weird but this is killing me right now.

 

[Mongo]

Do we know if this Bus Terminal is a single level terminal or a multi-level terminal?

I know it's weird but this is killing me right now.

From Bisonblight at SSC:

The proposal shows a two floor terminal, with 14 bus bays and room for six waiting buses. The existing Go terminal has only five or six bays, so its definitely an expansion, but I'm not sure how much Metrolinx intends to extend Bus service to Union.

Looking at the render in the fact sheet, the bus terminal definitely has two levels.

 

[arvelomcquaig]

“Skypark will be reminiscent of NYC's High Line, according to Ivanhoe exec.”

Except 0.1% the size?

 

[Kitsune]

From Bisonblight at SSC:



Looking at the render in the fact sheet, the bus terminal definitely has two levels.

Well - if they do want to expand to include the Bay/Dundas terminal it is going to need some tight scheduling.

 

[officedweller]

“Skypark will be reminiscent of NYC's High Line, according to Ivanhoe exec.”

Except 0.1% the size?

Hmmm - similar in width, I imagine...

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Anyone else think that the Bay St. façade of the podium and canopy are UGLY?
and not fitting for Bay Street (albeit south of the underpass).

The bus terminal looks like it'll be a bunker.

At the press briefing now (with new technology!) Here are the new renderings.

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[arvelomcquaig]

Yeah; similar in width, vastly different in length.

And yes, the terminal looks like yet another giant chunk of glass being passed off as architecture. This is one case where I hope the rendering is lying.

 

[japrologue]

I actually dont mind the height reduction but hope that they would keep the retail portion and yeah a definitely larger park

 

[ushahid]

so both towers have same height-240?

 

[CDL.TO]

I sure hope the actual boarding/alighting part of the bus terminal isn't in the furthest corner of the site from the subway and train station.

 

[Automation Gallery]

so both towers have same height-240?

Yeah, they look more like 260-265m

 

[travis3000]

Anyway we can find out the actual height?

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

I sure hope the actual boarding/alighting part of the bus terminal isn't in the furthest corner of the site from the subway and train station.

Unfortunately, given the location of the terminal within the site, there is every reason to believe that would be the case.

AoD

 

[Automation Gallery]

Who knows? here is an idea of whats going on in the Toronto Office Market....http://www.cbre.ca/AssetLibrary/TorontoOfficeDevelopment_Sep2013.pdf

In addition to these four tower proposals, perhaps the X (1 or 16) York office tower as part of the Ice towers complex (across PwC) would also be in the running?

RBC WaterPark PLACE - 88 queens quay w 233,020 26,666 933,020 Phase 3 of 3-building complex (Under Construction)
Bay-Adelaide centre east - 120 adelaide st w 432,826 23,000 1,017,826 Phase 2 of 3-phase office construction (Under Construction)
BREMNER TOWER - 120 bremner blvd 329,636 24,600 - 25,500 706,636 New construction; part of 3-tower mixed-use development (Under Construction)
MaRs phase 2 - 661 University Ave 382,000 27,398-40,835 740,000 Phase 2 of multi-phase laboratory and office space development (Complete)
The Queen Richmond Centre w - 134 peter st 235,581 23,604 285,581 Phase 1 of 2-phase, mixed-use development (Under Construction)
One York - 1 York st 668,000 27,692 800,000 New construction (Under Construction)
100 Adelaide st w 493,720 23,000 905,720 Redevelopment (Under Construction)
Globe and Mail Centre - 351 king st e 282,000 27,000 - 43,500 462,000 Phase 2 of mixed-use development (Under Construction)
45 bay st 1,000,000 N/A 1,000,000 New construction. Phase 1 of multi-phase, mixed-use development (Proposed/Waiting Approval)
60 harbour / 30 bay st 944,000 N/A 944,000 New construction(Waiting for Proposal)
16 york st 800,000 28,000 800,000 Phase 2 of residential and office mixed-use development (Proposed/Approved)
171 front st w 1,000,000 N/A 1,000,000 New construction (Proposed/Approved)
156 front st W (174 front st w/43 simcoe st) 1,200,000 24,000 1,200,000 Mixed-use development (Proposed/Approved)
Atrium on Bay - 595 bay st 285,000 28,500 285,000 Addition of 4 floors on each of two towers (Proposed/Waiting Approval)
85 richmond st W 155,000 13,000 155,000 Renovation of existing building (Complete)

Since last year there has been a couple more

The Well office complex 410 Front street,,900.000 sq. ft. (Proposed/Waiting Approval)
388 King W & 82 Peter St... 800,000 sq ft (Proposed/Approved)
1 - 7 Yonge St re-development 40s/900.000 sq. ft. office (Proposed/Waiting Approval)
489, 495 and 499 King West 500,000 sq ft office (Proposed Approved)
Bay-Adelaide Centre north, 500.000 sq. ft. office (Proposed/Approved)

 

[gabe]

Bay/Dundas bus terminal is an embarrassment to the city.