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When the bus station which is in its current spot until Friday, is there any word if CIBC and the developer are keeping the "heritage wall" that was part of the original CP Rail Express and Transport Building?
 
When the bus station which is in its current spot until Friday, is there any word if CIBC and the developer are keeping the "heritage wall" that was part of the original CP Rail Express and Transport Building?
If you mean the wall with 'bits & pieces' of 'heritage' artefacts that was just inside the Bay Street doors to SBA, the artefacts were being put back on the wall last week - below the new escalators.
 
Ethical question. Should I take a GO Bus on Saturday to use the new terminal or does that go against the spirit of lockdown?
 
No matter how you slice it and dice it, that gardener’s got to go! period

I had faith during the David Miller era. But once he announced he wasn't running for a third term, I knew the dream of removing the Gardiner was dashed.

I've since come around to the idea that we can live with it. Seeing new towers hemming in the Gardiner, it's become clear that the problem wasn't the Gardiner itself but the pedestrian-hostile wasteland that buffered it. Urbanizing the Gardiner is helping to camouflage its existence. In the most urban parts, it just falls into the visual noise of the city. Tall trees in the mini squares that are popping up between the Gardiner and the buildings lining it, can ultimately make it a pleasant space. Imagine tall trees sprouting up alongside the Gardiner and cars driving through an urban forrest amongst the tree canopies. Heck, it could almost be beautiful.
 
News Release
New Union Station Bus Terminal to Officially Open
December 4, 2020
Larger Terminal Offers Greater Safety, Comfort and Better Transit Connections
TORONTO — The Ontario government is enhancing passenger safety and customer experience with the official opening of the new Union Station GO Bus Terminal. Beginning tomorrow transit riders will have full access to the new two-level, indoor terminal located on the north-east corner of Bay Street and Lake Shore Boulevard. It will provide riders travelling in and out of the Greater Toronto Area with more direct connections to GO trains, the TTC, VIA Rail and UP Express.

"Our government is building accessible, modern transit infrastructure, and making public transit a safe and attractive option," said Caroline Mulroney, Minister of Transportation. "The opening of the new Union Station Bus Terminal demonstrates our government's promise to bring a better travel experience to the everyday lives of Ontarians."
The new terminal provides a larger indoor, climate-controlled space of more than 23,000 square feet. This will enable customers to comfortably and safely wait for their bus and board without leaving the building, and access to convenient amenities such as charging ports and free Wi-Fi. For enhanced safety, gates to platforms will remain closed until buses are ready to board or de-board, making it easy for customers to stay safely away from moving vehicles.
"This milestone is part of our government's broader vision to deliver better, safer and more reliable travel options for the people of Ontario," said Kinga Surma, Associate Minister of Transportation (GTA). "By making significant investments and building historic transit projects now, we are ensuring that future generations have access to a world class public transit system."
A new indoor glass pedestrian bridge built above Bay Street connects the terminal to Scotiabank Arena, the PATH and Union Station, allowing customers to easily transfer between buses and trains and get to other downtown attractions.
"The Union Station Bus Terminal is an integral part of our GO bus network and an important step forward in the overall enhancement of Union Station," said Phil Verster, Metrolinx President and CEO. "The larger and more comfortable space will offer an even better experience for customers who are catching a bus at the terminal or connecting to the other parts of the city or the region. We can't wait to welcome our customers into the new home of the GO bus."
"This bus terminal provides a harmonious connection between work and home for all CIBC SQUARE building occupants, eliminating stress from the workday commute," said David Hoffman, General Manager, CIBC SQUARE.
QUICK FACTS
  • The new Union Station Bus Terminal was built in partnership with Metrolinx, Ivanhoé Cambridge and Hines, and is part of the larger connected CIBC SQUARE development that includes two innovative office towers at 81 and 141 Bay Street.
  • Improved amenities at the new Union Station Bus Terminal include: over 200 indoor seats for customers, 270 bike parking spaces, charging ports and Wi-Fi.
  • The terminal will improve customer access to buses; like an airport, there will be specific zone areas for customers to board the bus platform.
  • Digital screens and public announcements will guide customers to the appropriate zone and gate prior to boarding the bus.
  • Enhanced accessibility at the terminal includes trip information presented at eye-level, vertical bars instead of traditional buttons to open power doors and enhanced washroom accessibility.
 
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It bothers me that the announcement starts with "customer safety" when this was designed a decade before coronavirus. If you buy the height of government manipulation these days you are the problem! This opening has zero to do with customer safety and the government should be ashamed for even including that nonsense in this announcement, nevermind leading with it.
 
It bothers me that the announcement starts with "customer safety" when this was designed a decade before coronavirus. If you buy the height of government manipulation these days you are the problem! This opening has zero to do with customer safety and the government should be ashamed for even including that nonsense in this announcement, nevermind leading with it.

Agree but the reality is confidence in public transportation is low and could go lower as we get through this winter. Sure, we could take this as the government manipulating a modern bus terminal into something they're doing to respond to COVID, but it's also just a window of opportunity to instill some confidence by attaching the word "safe" to something that has significantly changed in terms of bus travel.
 
It bothers me that the announcement starts with "customer safety" when this was designed a decade before coronavirus. If you buy the height of government manipulation these days you are the problem! This opening has zero to do with customer safety and the government should be ashamed for even including that nonsense in this announcement, nevermind leading with it.

The “customer safety” bit was about not having people wait amongst moving buses. The gate doors only open once the corresponding bus is ready for boarding and customers aren’t allowed to wait outside.

Your comment says more about your bias to criticize pandemic actions, than it does about “government manipulation”.
 
It bothers me that the announcement starts with "customer safety" when this was designed a decade before coronavirus. If you buy the height of government manipulation these days you are the problem! This opening has zero to do with customer safety and the government should be ashamed for even including that nonsense in this announcement, nevermind leading with it.

Except for the fact that the safety measures were not meant specifically for Covid. The safety measures were for passengers accessing the building, busses and platforms that the old station did not provide. There are plenty of safety things that had to be upgraded, regardless of the current pandemic, to which they have provided a better passenger experience. So them leading with that statement is far and justified. Covid was/is an issue that wouldn't have been identified as an issue to resolve until this year, when construction was well underway. Some adjustments might have ben made in the design to combat Covid, but I personally don't know if any were. I just believe your statement is misplaced by calling it government manipulation.
 
Maybe there's a safety issue around wanting to resolve squishy pedestrians mixing with large metal buses that is nothing to do with viruses. I'm sure if we all put our heads together we might come up with an answer that makes sense. /sarcasm

Beyond that, it looks from the photos I've seen that the seating may have been reduced and placed to aid social distancing, but other than that, I'm not sure what else you could do. This pandemic will end, and the terminal will have to work for the longterm condition. Hopefully 'only' a few more moths of weirdness to go. In some ways it's probably good as it's probably inevitable there will be teething problems with the new systems until everyone gets the hang of it.
 

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