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"The thing about guns is they show no mercy," David Miller

AndreaPalladio said:
I'm sure your support for gun control is just as strong as your support for linguistic and racial minorities. You've made any number of posts here that show just how credible you are when you claim to support something.
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Andrea, I think we can both agree that you'll disregard and dispute pretty much everything I say or claim, and disregard any of my attempts to sincerely reply to your replies and clarify any commentary. I think that's sweet, and the attention is certainly nice, but since you're never satisfied with my responses to your querries and comments, why do you keep making the effort? If I make a comment you don't like, and you reply in kind, I always try to clarify and address your concerns, and each time you throw it back, and post another negative rebuttal. What do you want me to say or do? You could say finding a way to your happiness is my top concern on UT :)

What would also be nice would be your proposal to bring real gun control to Toronto and Canada. I support a complete and immediate ban of all legally registered hand-guns, do you? I support very strong sentences for criminals that use guns, do you? How do you propose that we stop the illegal import of guns from the USA? My bus trip certainly seems to be a possible entry method for handguns, how do we stop these guys? How about we work together to stop the trade in illegal guns altogether?
 
You're the one who's popping a boner to go to Virgina to add to your gun collection, who knows all the in and outs of gun aquisition.
 
AndreaPalladio said:
I'm sure your support for gun control is just as strong as your support for linguistic and racial minorities.
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I don't think its necessary to continually label someone as racist, I think the comment you are referring to was misunderstood
 
Monday, July 29, early AM depart for Toronto, arriving at border by 6pm.
- Please have all firearms packed in the two large suitcases provided by group leader. Remember to put your name tag on your gun for distribution later. These two suit cases will be packed at the far back seat of the bus, underneath additional religious material.
- Please wear suit and tie on bus for return journey, remove any bandanas
- Please have your items from the THE ANNUAL VIRGINIA GOSPEL SHOWCASE visible in aisles. Have best dressed women and gentlemen at front of bus, holding bibles, etc.
- Advise Canada Customs that your group was on a religious awakening tour to the THE ANNUAL VIRGINIA GOSPEL SHOWCASE.

Monday, July 29, evening. Return to C.W. Jeffries Collegiate Institute, firearms distributed.
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It's fascinating that this little gun market noted above would be operated under the guise of being a religious meeting, and that the religious meeting would be used as a means to lie to Canada Customs in order to smuggle guns across the border.

What this scenario suggests to me is that the problem of illegal guns possessed by criminals is actually just a smaller issue of a much more significant gun culture, a culture that - though "legal" - actually makes excuses for the acquisition of guns by those intending to use them for criminal acts. There has to be something alluring and attractive to those who purchase hand guns for protection or collecting. Is it because of their use as weapons and the capacity to kill? Is that so different from those who use guns in criminal activity? In other words, is their something common for wanting to possess a gun that is the same thing for the casual owner, the collector and the person intending to use one against another person?
 
lobbby said:
I don't think its necessary to continually label someone as racist, I think the comment you are referring to was misunderstood
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Hang around long enough and you'll see the good Admiral's pattern of slipping denigrating remarks about various racial and liguistic groups, all the while stating how much he supports them. Jamaicans weren't the first group he's pulled this on; there's no reason to assume they'll be the last.
 
Sadly, my personal opinion is that there is no 'solution' to the handgun problem. There are simply too many of them out there on this continent to do anything significant about it. Some ills just have no cures, and the relatively easy access to handguns, legal or illegal, seems to be one of them. This cat is waaaaaay out of the bag, unfortunately.
 
Hydrogen said:
It's fascinating that this little gun market noted above would be operated under the guise of being a religious meeting, and that the religious meeting would be used as a means to lie to Canada Customs in order to smuggle guns across the border.

What this scenario suggests to me is that the problem of illegal guns possessed by criminals is actually just a smaller issue of a much more significant gun culture, a culture that - though "legal" - actually makes excuses for the acquisition of guns by those intending to use them for criminal acts. There has to be something alluring and attractive to those who purchase hand guns for protection or collecting. Is it because of their use as weapons and the capacity to kill? Is that so different from those who use guns in criminal activity? In other words, is their something common for wanting to possess a gun that is the same thing for the casual owner, the collector and the person intending to use one against another person?
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It doesn't have to be a religious event, and could be substituted for a family reunion, shopping or cultural trip - anything that gives legitimacy and perhaps a "feel good" air to the gun mission.

I think was is alluring about hand guns is their power and exclusiveness, especially if they're illegal.
 
AndreaPalladio said:
Hang around long enough and you'll see the good Admiral's pattern of slipping denigrating remarks about various racial and liguistic groups, all the while stating how much he supports them. Jamaicans weren't the first group he's pulled this on; there's no reason to assume they'll be the last.
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It's those damn pasty old white guys with their viagra-induced boner popping that's worrying me the most.
 
I think was is alluring about hand guns is their power and exclusiveness, especially if they're illegal.
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But what is the allure for those individuals who want to buy hand guns legally?
 
too much testosterone but not enough pipe to channel it.

so the solution would be giving viagra or penis lengthening to "would be" criminals so that they don't have to compensate with guns? you know, this can backfire, most likely in someones rear! ;)
 
This weekend was almost as dangerous as last weekend. 3 murders this time, 2 of them shootings. You have to feel bad for the people that live in the affectd communities. Even if they aren't necessarily victims of the crime, their quality of life has deteriorated.
 
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