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thenay
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
thx for the pic Ed, I haven't been down in a bit now, looks good
thx for the pic Ed, I haven't been down in a bit now, looks good
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gbelan
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
the pdf says 54 m to top of mech. so it will be tall.(177 ft)
the pdf says 54 m to top of mech. so it will be tall.(177 ft)
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The Burgher of TO
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
for reference's sake, that's the same height as the eaton centre tower. dundas square may actually feel claustrophobic once metropolis is done
for reference's sake, that's the same height as the eaton centre tower. dundas square may actually feel claustrophobic once metropolis is done
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WhistlerinToronto
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Just rode past it today at 2pm (June 29th). They're adding the framework for the glass and cladding on the West side.
Just rode past it today at 2pm (June 29th). They're adding the framework for the glass and cladding on the West side.
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papamanjr
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
also, the Met is starting to pop up in the background when looking north, and it too adds to the overwhelming feeling of being surrounded by nothing but buildings all around when standing at that corner! very dense. (I can't even imagine what it's going to be like when RoCP III gets built.)
also, the Met is starting to pop up in the background when looking north, and it too adds to the overwhelming feeling of being surrounded by nothing but buildings all around when standing at that corner! very dense. (I can't even imagine what it's going to be like when RoCP III gets built.)
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WhistlerinToronto
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
I noticed that as well, looking more and more dense in every direction you look downtown.
I noticed that as well, looking more and more dense in every direction you look downtown.
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MetroMan1000
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
oh oh.... :\ I'm beginning to cringe at the possibility of Torch like crappy cladding.
They're adding the framework for the glass and cladding on the West side.
oh oh.... :\ I'm beginning to cringe at the possibility of Torch like crappy cladding.
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DaninToronto2
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Cant wait to see the hoarding come down on this one.
Cant wait to see the hoarding come down on this one.
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EnviroTO
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
If you expect it to look as good as the torch you might be aiming too high. The renderings show a grey cladding and fans giving it an industrial unfinished look. The only redeeming apsect of the renderings is the windows and the billboards which doesn't say much.
I'm beginning to cringe at the possibility of Torch like crappy cladding.
If you expect it to look as good as the torch you might be aiming too high. The renderings show a grey cladding and fans giving it an industrial unfinished look. The only redeeming apsect of the renderings is the windows and the billboards which doesn't say much.
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MetroMan1000
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Actually, we're already seeing Torch trends in this project. The corners are now squared off, not round as originally planned. Like the torches billboards -- which went from spectacular one of a kind to bland standard -- these have been turned into flat surfaces...
Let the cheap skate ralley begin!
Actually, we're already seeing Torch trends in this project. The corners are now squared off, not round as originally planned. Like the torches billboards -- which went from spectacular one of a kind to bland standard -- these have been turned into flat surfaces...
Let the cheap skate ralley begin!
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borgos
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Just walked by the site. They're erecting the steel structure on Victoria Street. It is absolutely enormous. It will completely overwhelm Victoria Street. Now I know why Peniniquity failed to release renderings of the eastern and northern views.
Just walked by the site. They're erecting the steel structure on Victoria Street. It is absolutely enormous. It will completely overwhelm Victoria Street. Now I know why Peniniquity failed to release renderings of the eastern and northern views.
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ratoronto
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
Does anyone have the text of John Barber's column in today's Globe and Mail? On the Globe's website it says that "The page you requested is only available to INSIDER Edition subscribers"
It is called Yonge-Dundas Square coming into its own despite some rough times And it is on pg. A9 of the Thursday Globe.
Does anyone have the text of John Barber's column in today's Globe and Mail? On the Globe's website it says that "The page you requested is only available to INSIDER Edition subscribers"
It is called Yonge-Dundas Square coming into its own despite some rough times And it is on pg. A9 of the Thursday Globe.
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nstuch
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
here it is:
Yonge-Dundas Square coming into its own despite some rough times
JOHN BARBER
E-mail John Barber | Read Bio | Latest Columns
It could be that the closing of Olympic Spirit Toronto, a brand-new tourist attraction in the heart of what is supposed to be the action in this burg, is the latest disaster in the ongoing urban tragedy that began with an infectious disease and, most recently, led to the premature closing of The Lord of the Rings.
On the other hand, it could just be a blip in an otherwise sunny story of steady recovery.
Both theories are credible.
Bobby Sniderman, who owns the Senator Restaurant two doors away from the now-shuttered Olympic Spirit, stands by the former. "The Toronto tourist industry is a disaster," he said yesterday. "It hasn't recovered since SARS, quite frankly. . . . It's a very difficult time for a lot of businesses in downtown Toronto."
There are few better witnesses to the tangled, often tawdry history of the Yonge Street strip than Mr. Sniderman. His father, Sam the Record Man, helped invent it. While his brother, Jason, ran the fabled record store, he branched out in the same neighbourhood and was a leader of the lobby that ultimately achieved, at vast public expense, Yonge-Dundas Square. He also helped develop the expropriated site that became the $42-million Olympic Spirit.
Since then, however, Mr. Sniderman has shrunk his restaurant and survived the bankruptcy of the family record business, which has since undergone a shaky revival in a diminishing market.
Now the Olympic Spirit is closed. Live theatre in general, not just Rings, is suffering. "And when you have shootings on the street," he said, "it doesn't really help."
This is not what anyone envisaged when the old city initiated the grand revival more than a decade ago. Even so, it's impossible to ignore the progress.
The square is a marvel, finally coming into its own as a generous and popular gathering place. The largest and most important development on the expropriated land -- the cinema and shopping complex on the square's northern border -- is finally under construction, for real this time, and due to open in the fall of 2007.
That will change everything, according to Ron Soskolne, a real estate consultant and chairman of the board that oversees the square. "The big factor in the whole piece is the cinemas," he said. "That's going to add a tremendous range of activity to the area."
Canadian Tire will soon open a flagship store in the new Ryerson University building at Bay and Dundas, returning hardware downtown after a decades-long absence. At the same location, electronics chain Best Buy is building its first non-suburban outlet in the region.
It won't be long, Mr. Soskolne predicted, until the Olympic Spirit building is repurposed.
"There are many models, particularly south of the border, for stores which are that size and are attracted to that kind of location."
James Robinson of the Downtown Yonge Business Improvement Area is even more bullish, despite the closing of the Olympic Spirit. "It's unfortunate, but it is a new opportunity for us," he said, touting the site as a potential bookstore or as the "front door" Ryerson is looking for.
Then there is the tantalizing possibility of using the building to house the archives of the Black Star photo agency, a collection of iconic 20th century photographs, valued at $100-million, donated anonymously to the university last year.
If the right people get on the phone today, Toronto could see the creation of a genuinely popular museum of international stature within months.
The building is already there. It's empty. And Ryerson has a pressing need to find a new home for the spectacular collection. . .
Ahh, but dreams are dangerous in this terrain. Construction starts, then it stops. New stores open, then close. Attractions fail. Yonge Street is fun street, but never sentimental.
jbarber@globeandmail.com
here it is:
Yonge-Dundas Square coming into its own despite some rough times
JOHN BARBER
E-mail John Barber | Read Bio | Latest Columns
It could be that the closing of Olympic Spirit Toronto, a brand-new tourist attraction in the heart of what is supposed to be the action in this burg, is the latest disaster in the ongoing urban tragedy that began with an infectious disease and, most recently, led to the premature closing of The Lord of the Rings.
On the other hand, it could just be a blip in an otherwise sunny story of steady recovery.
Both theories are credible.
Bobby Sniderman, who owns the Senator Restaurant two doors away from the now-shuttered Olympic Spirit, stands by the former. "The Toronto tourist industry is a disaster," he said yesterday. "It hasn't recovered since SARS, quite frankly. . . . It's a very difficult time for a lot of businesses in downtown Toronto."
There are few better witnesses to the tangled, often tawdry history of the Yonge Street strip than Mr. Sniderman. His father, Sam the Record Man, helped invent it. While his brother, Jason, ran the fabled record store, he branched out in the same neighbourhood and was a leader of the lobby that ultimately achieved, at vast public expense, Yonge-Dundas Square. He also helped develop the expropriated site that became the $42-million Olympic Spirit.
Since then, however, Mr. Sniderman has shrunk his restaurant and survived the bankruptcy of the family record business, which has since undergone a shaky revival in a diminishing market.
Now the Olympic Spirit is closed. Live theatre in general, not just Rings, is suffering. "And when you have shootings on the street," he said, "it doesn't really help."
This is not what anyone envisaged when the old city initiated the grand revival more than a decade ago. Even so, it's impossible to ignore the progress.
The square is a marvel, finally coming into its own as a generous and popular gathering place. The largest and most important development on the expropriated land -- the cinema and shopping complex on the square's northern border -- is finally under construction, for real this time, and due to open in the fall of 2007.
That will change everything, according to Ron Soskolne, a real estate consultant and chairman of the board that oversees the square. "The big factor in the whole piece is the cinemas," he said. "That's going to add a tremendous range of activity to the area."
Canadian Tire will soon open a flagship store in the new Ryerson University building at Bay and Dundas, returning hardware downtown after a decades-long absence. At the same location, electronics chain Best Buy is building its first non-suburban outlet in the region.
It won't be long, Mr. Soskolne predicted, until the Olympic Spirit building is repurposed.
"There are many models, particularly south of the border, for stores which are that size and are attracted to that kind of location."
James Robinson of the Downtown Yonge Business Improvement Area is even more bullish, despite the closing of the Olympic Spirit. "It's unfortunate, but it is a new opportunity for us," he said, touting the site as a potential bookstore or as the "front door" Ryerson is looking for.
Then there is the tantalizing possibility of using the building to house the archives of the Black Star photo agency, a collection of iconic 20th century photographs, valued at $100-million, donated anonymously to the university last year.
If the right people get on the phone today, Toronto could see the creation of a genuinely popular museum of international stature within months.
The building is already there. It's empty. And Ryerson has a pressing need to find a new home for the spectacular collection. . .
Ahh, but dreams are dangerous in this terrain. Construction starts, then it stops. New stores open, then close. Attractions fail. Yonge Street is fun street, but never sentimental.
jbarber@globeandmail.com
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MetroMan1000
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
I'd rather not see a quiet museum in the Olympic Spirit building. That location is about commercialism, about excitement.
A bustling bookstore like Chapters on Richmond + John with a Starbucks would be ideal. It would attract people to that end of the square, whereas now it is a black hole with people populating only the West side of YDS.
I'd rather not see a quiet museum in the Olympic Spirit building. That location is about commercialism, about excitement.
A bustling bookstore like Chapters on Richmond + John with a Starbucks would be ideal. It would attract people to that end of the square, whereas now it is a black hole with people populating only the West side of YDS.
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blixa442
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Re: PCL: Metropolis Update June 1/06
A bookstore would tank but some kind of combination of fast food with Starbucks would do wonders for this place. Even better, why not relocate the Tim Horton's from across the street?
A bookstore would tank but some kind of combination of fast food with Starbucks would do wonders for this place. Even better, why not relocate the Tim Horton's from across the street?