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The Future of Bombardier
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jje1000
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Only business jets now if this goes through, a systematic dismantling of Bombardier's once proud commercial aerospace division. Ironic though that while it created its aerospace division mostly through acquisitions, it's coming apart the same way.
Bombardier in talks to sell its last commercial jet business to Mitsubishi
The CRJ regional jet once produced the bulk of Bombardier’s revenue, but now it’s losing money
Bruce Einhorn June 5, 2019 8:55 AM EDT
business.financialpost.com
Bombardier in talks to sell its last commercial jet business to Mitsubishi
The CRJ regional jet once produced the bulk of Bombardier’s revenue, but now it’s losing money
Bruce Einhorn June 5, 2019 8:55 AM EDT
Bombardier in talks to sell its last commercial jet business to Mitsubishi
The CRJ regional jet once produced the bulk of Bombardier’s revenue, but now it’s losing money
business.financialpost.com
rbt
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Additional order of 36 Bilevels to be produced at Thunderbay.
raptor
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robmausser
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robmausser
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Bilevels will provide service to the outer regions. Barrie, Kitchener, Bowmanville, Niagara, Stouffville, and on the non electrified Milton and Richmond Hill lines.
Whether being pulled by electric loco (Barrie will be electrified) or diesel.
Electrification isnt here yet and we need to ramp up service levels in the mean time. At the same time some bilevels are reaching their end of life, the ones from the 70's.
Btw 36 bilevels is just 3 new trains. Each train is 12 bilevels. Really not that much.
Also bilevels are very easy to sell; many transit networks in north america use them and they are in demand.
rbt
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OnCorr has the option to procure a new fleet; nothing requires them to do so (electric locomotives hauling existing equipment around is an option). The tender requires minimum performance levels without specifying technology.
Also, we don't know when they might do so as OnCorr tender has no due dates; it's vendors choice.
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dowlingm
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Anyone have a sense of how long the oldest cars in the fleet have got left? This may (looking at it generously) be merely marking time given the longer time horizon of electrification at this point.
Amare
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Yet another Pierre Beaudoin legacy project. My goodness did he ever leave a world of hurt to this company.Only business jets now if this goes through, a systematic dismantling of Bombardier's once proud commercial aerospace division. Ironic though that while it created its aerospace division mostly through acquisitions, it's coming apart the same way.
Bombardier in talks to sell its last commercial jet business to Mitsubishi
The CRJ regional jet once produced the bulk of Bombardier’s revenue, but now it’s losing money
Bruce Einhorn June 5, 2019 8:55 AM EDT
Bombardier in talks to sell its last commercial jet business to Mitsubishi
The CRJ regional jet once produced the bulk of Bombardier’s revenue, but now it’s losing money
drum118
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jje1000
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Interesting notes from above:
Admiral Beez
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So much for LRT production. Honestly, this company is f#cked. They should be winning bids and building LRT units for systems across North America. Idiots.
/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/business/2019/07/09/bombardier-to-lay-off-half-the-1100-workers-at-thunder-bay-ont-railway-plant/CPT13208039.jpg)
Bombardier to lay off half the 1,100 workers at Thunder Bay rail plant
Union boss fears even more job cuts on horizon as major contracts for TTC streetcars and GO Transit rail cars come to an end
jje1000
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To be honest, I think everyone sort of knew that this was a real possibility with Bombardier's inherited UTDC properties, but chose to put it at the back of their minds.
drum118
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If BBD wasn't part of the P3 team for Edmonton, TTC and Metrolinx would been the last LRV's built in NA. They are in a shit hole of problems on all their orders.So much for LRT production. Honestly, this company is f#cked. They should be winning bids and building LRT units for systems across North America. Idiots.
Bombardier to lay off half the 1,100 workers at Thunder Bay, Ont. railway plantBombardier to lay off half the 1,100 workers at Thunder Bay rail plant
Union boss fears even more job cuts on horizon as major contracts for TTC streetcars and GO Transit rail cars come to an endwww.thestar.com
BBD hasn't pickup any orders in the US after their screw up with Minneapolis order, considering Siemens has and is building over a 1,000's LRV's since the mid 2000's. Any LRV for the US has to have a 70% buy America in them which rules out Thunder Bay.
Those BBD cars in Minneapolis are schedule for a short life cycle and are to be replace by Siemens cars late 2020. They can't be MU to Siemens cars and the systems needs to run 3 car train today, not the 2 that was built in the first place. All existing platforms have or in the process of being rebuilt for 3 cars long.
BBD has used a shit load of CEO's in the last 10 years.
Going out on the limb, BBD is twisting Ford Arm to get work and want the Ontario Line to be like Vancouver Sky Train System. That would be a great mistake to do so. They wanted not only to replace the SRT, but extended it to Union with the Sky Train at the beginning of the EA cycle and got rule out.
Admiral Beez
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I can only assume that Bombardier Transport division is eventually acquired by Siemens or a leading player elsewhere. And with the breakup of the Aerospace division to Mitsubishi, Airbus and Viking, what’s left? The family BRP biz I suppose, but that’s a separate animal.
As for Thunder Bay, has that firm been owned by a private Ontario-based entity? It seems to bounce back and forth between British and Quebec firms, with a brief period of Ontario government ownership.
As for Thunder Bay, has that firm been owned by a private Ontario-based entity? It seems to bounce back and forth between British and Quebec firms, with a brief period of Ontario government ownership.
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