condovo
Senior Member
The best solution is heavy community engagement, involvement and a sense of ownership to nip tagging and other issues in the bud.
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St. James Park Revitalization (PMA Landscape Architects)
- Thread starter Edward Skira
- Start date
Northern Light
Superstar
@DSC will likely deal with this area of parks far more often than I.
However, I can provide you a couple of general options.
1) Phone/email 311:
2) Phone/email the councillor. That is Kristyn Wong-Tam.
3) Phone the General Supervisor of Parks in this area: (this park is Ward 13)
condovo
Senior Member
How about...?
Dr. Snoot
Active Member
And broad dissemination of the FACT that tagging is the adult equivalent of “I was here” written on the chalkboard in 5th grade and is for TOTAL LOSERS. I swear if I ever find out who tags those little puzzle piece men all over the east side I will find and tag them permanently.
DSC
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The St James Park supervisor is Heidi Weidelich but all complaints/comments may be best routed via 311 so they get logged and counted. There is also a Friends group who are, I am sure, WELL aware of this. But .. fsjptoronto@gmail.com Though the Councillor's office is quite responsive, it makes little sense going there unless you have no 'worker contacts" or unless you get no satisfaction
UtakataNoAnnex
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Preferably with a BoB Ross like demeanor? (Something like that would drive me nuts. >.< )
concrete_and_light
Active Member
Two positions are compatible:
1. This type of vandalism is bad and it's sad to see this kind of thing happen, especially to something so beautiful.
2. We should not implement a security state and draconian policies in order to attempt to penalize it since that can have knock-on consequences that are even more negative for society than the original problem and wont likely be that effective anyway.
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
This is why i find the debate problematic, as it always leads to rolling back our civil liberties over this which is much more problematic. But it also goes without saying that stuff like this is why people can't have nice things. And it takes one bad actor to spoil it for everyone...
That said, I wonder when making public works of this nature, they should use materials and treatments that would make something like this more tag proof. As to when an offense is made, it can more easily and readily be removed with little or no damage to the works. This while not a perfect option, but would far be better than having CCTV police state where skulls are cracked if folks where to smile at said public works wrong.
toast_and_tea
Active Member
They tagged the playground equipment too. Unfortunately it was only a matter of time 
afransen
Senior Member
Maybe a controversial take, but CCTV with AI monitoring in public places doesn't seem like a big invasion of privacy. We have ring doorbells watching you as you walk down the street already...
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Nope.
dusk
Active Member
Firstly not only is having an overpoliced state not the ideal outcome, but avoiding CCTV and fines would be easy (wear masks, etc). It's not the solution here.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
I doubt vandalism of this sort is premeditated to the point of someone resorting to wearing masks for it.
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dusk
Active Member
Oh I agree but I'm saying that's an easy bypass. You won't stop vandalism with additional CCTVs is my point.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
I don't think you would stop them, but I do think CCTV allows for tracability and evidence should these individuals make multiple attempts - at different locations. We don't even have a cue right now as to who did it.
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