asher__jo
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I’m assuming this bothers you soo much because you buy into the narrative that white people have no historical responsibility to acknowledge that white people continue to benefit at the expense of indigenous peoples.
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Sheppard Line 4 Subway Extension (Proposed)
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turini2
Active Member
What I was surprised to see in the Sheppard/McCowan station plans was... provision for a Eglinton East LRT station on Sheppard, not a future line 4 station box!
Line 4 connections are shown on the plans at Level B2 - with a knockout panel to the "Canada Tire site"
Undead
Senior Member
Nutty takes to the land acknowledgement thread.
Carlodangez
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steviej1
New Member
Guys, can you move the Indigenous people talk to another thread so we can keep this on topic?
chrisw
Active Member
So, anyone get any insights from talking with the consultants at the two recent consultation meetings?
goodcitywhenfinished
Active Member
My only wish is that this project remains heavy-rail technology, grade-separated at all costs. Even if that means a shorter extension. Converting this line into a crosstown-style slow train would be insanity. But this is metrolinx after all.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I thought the operating speed of the Eglinton LRT was 80km/h in the tunnel as compared to 75km/h for the subway.
toronto647
Active Member
60 km/h at street level and 80 km/h underground, the top safe allowable speeds for the route... Practically speaking I doubt they would be going 80 km/h underground. The main focus should be opening this line asap. We are almost in 2024 with no announcement of an opening date any time soon.
Source - https://www.metrolinx.com/en/news/eglinton-crosstown-lrt-hits-top-speed-as-testing-continues
Mount Dennis Resident
Active Member
80 km/h IF there were platform screen doors. Without such doors, they'll have to crawl into the underground stations. Allegedly.
afransen
Senior Member
And long dwell times with low floor LRVs.
MrGoose
Active Member
Should’ve been a subway
Steve X
Senior Member
Line 2 trains used to be able to reach over 90 km/h eastbound towards Old Mill Station as trains head downhill till they enforced the speed.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
I don't understand what speed and dwell time has to do with floor height and vehicle weight. A subway is heavier, and a maglev is lighter. So we need to make the Eglinton vehicles heavier so they what? VIA Rail has heavy rail with long dwell, and the much lighter REM has a shorter dwell, so make Eglinton vehicles heavier so they dwell differently how?
The vehicle being LRT makes no difference. Some could argue a rocket sled is a light rail vehicle.
The question is, how are they going to operate these vehicles and maintain the infrastructure and vehicles so they remain able to perform to specification. That is the only thing that will actually decide if it is fast or slow or has a short or long dwell time.
The vehicle being LRT makes no difference. Some could argue a rocket sled is a light rail vehicle.
The question is, how are they going to operate these vehicles and maintain the infrastructure and vehicles so they remain able to perform to specification. That is the only thing that will actually decide if it is fast or slow or has a short or long dwell time.
T3G
Senior Member
I am utterly baffled as to how this idea came to you in the first place. The Sheppard line is already built to subway (which is not particularly heavy rail) technology. Do you honestly think there is any desire or push to redesign the entire line that exists and sever it from the extant TTC network?
Unless Metrolinx has even more stringent operating rules than the TTC, this sounds like utter bunk. There are segments of the current TTC subway where trains reach speeds like this and blast into the station at speed despite the lack of platform doors. And then there is, of course, the GO train.
I see no compelling argument for why the trains wouldn't be allowed to operate at full speed.
If this actually occurred, this had to have been a fault in the vehicle's speed limiter system. As designed, the traction motors cut out at 80 km/h, and the penalty brake kicks in at 88 km/h.
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