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Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 26m
New Doug Ford quote from group home meeting: "You may not like this. You can call The Toronto Star. But I need you to leave my community.â€

Why is Doug hammering this one so hard? He's done jack for his ward and suddenly this is his passion project?

It's not really a 'new' quote -- it's one of the first things he said at the original meeting. It just wasn't reported in the original story. The "guest column" thing they ran in the Sun indicates he's going to "work with them" -- whatever that means. But his column totally misses the point that the goal is to keep the majority of people out of places like Thistletown and to try to help them make progress and integrate them into the community.
 
Nenshi polled at 8% two weeks before election day in Calgary. We all know how that turned out. Soknacki has some great platforms, interesting ideas (the LRT walk) and the appearance of some real vision. It is way too early to say anything for certain but I think it would be a mistake to underestimate this guy.

There was a big grass roots support for Nenshi though, he did a lot of viral marketing, big ad campaigns involving lots of supporters. This is from wiki:

His 2010 campaign for mayor was dubbed the "Purple Revolution"[18] was uniquely a viral campaign which relied heavily on using social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter to promote his platform and hyper-engage voters.[19] The "Purple Revolution" was so chosen according to Nenshi I.T. campaign specialist Richard Einarson, was for a broad appeal across the socio-economic spectrum of liberal red and conservative blue voters.[20]

Beside viral campaigning, the volunteer body of 'Team Nenshi' were given a great degree of autonomy to exercise creative talent. The team promoted the cause through creative Guerrilla Marketing tactics such as 'Operation Purple Dawn'. Nenshi's supporters converged on the city in a mass rally on the evening before election day. They advertised Nenshi by posting signs and writing platform slogans with chalk graffiti on pavement of high traffic locations.[20] Supporters offered their homes as venues for coffee parties where Nenshi spoke to the gathered about his platform. The coffee parties offered a friendly atmosphere for friends to discuss the volatile nature of sensitive political issues without risking their relationships. Approximately 40 parties were held during the campaign.[20]

There's nothing like that for / from Soknacki.
 
Tory and Chow, uninspiring in all they say so far, but conceded premier positions because it has been decided that they're the ones with enough history and public profile to take out Ford.

And because they're the ones people are going to vote for. Stintz, Soknacki, Goldkind and all the other fringe candidates are all also rans. This contest is Ford, Tory, Chow, the rest are irrelevant in terms of how they are and will poll. If you want to get rid of Ford, you have to hold your nose and vote for Tory or Chow.
 
Great comment IMHO:

Asher Mercer ‏@urban_asher 2m
Much of the Fords' fierce loyalty comes from willingness to say horrible things that ppl who agree with them won't say. #TOpoli
 
OPINION
Doug Ford: Issue comes back to closing Thistletown
Councillor Doug Ford, Guest Column
Yesterday at 7:53 PM

Neighbours shared stories about theft and violent behaviour. We heard instances of harassment, cars being broken into and many other shocking revelations. Police presence in this area is becoming regular

How much that is really linked to residents of the group home?
 
How much that is really linked to residents of the group home?
Who knows? Anecdotal evidence and the NIMBYs get up in arms. Perhaps there was one car broken into, and it has been spun into a neighbourhood epidemic.

Maybe there have been police vehicles at the home. But maybe they were there because the kids were bullied at school. Who says they have to be there because the kids at the home were in trouble?

Again, Fords have police vehicles at their home quite regularly. The NIMBYs need to get up in arms about that, not to mention their known low-life associates that they bring into the neighbourhood.
 
And because they're the ones people are going to vote for. Stintz, Soknacki, Goldkind and all the other fringe candidates are all also rans. This contest is Ford, Tory, Chow, the rest are irrelevant in terms of how they are and will poll. If you want to get rid of Ford, you have to hold your nose and vote for Tory or Chow.

There is another choice. Take advantage of the next five months to help put a fire under a better candidate. That grassroots movement that put Nenshi in office built slowly over the campaign, and he listened closely to his volunteers for ideas to get people engaged. I am doing the opposite of predicting a surprise win for Soknacki, I am suggesting that we take some of this anger towards the Ford circus and get engaged with some of the better candidates. Come election day we may have to hold our noses, but we can work towards preventing that now rather than just giving up.
 
Nenshi polled at 8% two weeks before election day in Calgary. We all know how that turned out. Soknacki has some great platforms, interesting ideas (the LRT walk) and the appearance of some real vision. It is way too early to say anything for certain but I think it would be a mistake to underestimate this guy.

He is my favourite so far. And given his low numbers, I am hoping for a Nenshi like ascendancy too!
 
He is my favourite so far. And given his low numbers, I am hoping for a Nenshi like ascendancy too!

Other than a few awkward mannerisms, I thought Soknacki killed the first debate! My personal choices aside, I think we have a chance to really force the candidates to polish their platforms and ideas over the next few months. Just hoping that Ford gets arrested soon so we can all refocus on electing someone better than just "not Ford".
 
David Miller was polling low numbers, under 10%, in the 2003 race, and then Barbara Hall's campaign collapsed and he became a contender. Ford has already collapsed. Will Chow do the same in order for Soknacki to win?

It's interesting to read the 11 year old thread about the race on UT: http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showth...tion-Poll-pegs-Miller-as-Toronto-s-next-mayor

Thanks for the link. It really is up to Chow now I think. Prior to the election announcements I was curious to see what Tory's platform would look like. Turns out he was a lame duck from the start.
 
Toronto Councillor Doug Ford at City Hall on Monday, May 12, 2014. (Craig Robertson/Toronto Sun)

Unfortunately, the Liberals decided that finding quick fixes to their financial mess was more important than providing these vital services to our youth. They decided to close the doors of this facility, sell it off to developers, and instead create less costly group homes in densely populated suburban family neighbourhoods. This is an issue that is now being felt in many residential communities across Toronto.

Oh, the irony. Doug Ford: defender of much needed public services against the influence of private capital.

Doug Ford: fighting the stopping of the gravy train.
 
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