TCalnan
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So we can all agree that we won't vote for Rob Ford or Jack Layton next election?
Deal.
Deal.
Cute!
But Stalin defeated the Nazis. Can Ford do that?
Has anyone defended Layton's actions in this matter? You agree that an office holder being involved in the drug trade is worse than getting a handjob, so what is the hypocrisy here?
Except that you are reaching here - first of all, those providing sexual services aren't necessarily all individuals who have been exploited and/or involved in human trafficking. Second, there are no collaborating evidence that this incident is criminal, much less representative of a pattern of behaviour and third, there is no evidence that it has affected his performance as an official. Even assuming that there was sex work involved, can you legitimately say that crack use and the close ties with drug traffickers is of the same level of wrong as utilizing the services of a sex worker? I don't know, can you show up to work looking like you're under the influence of a rub-and-tug (I guess you can, on a lighter note, with a big smile on one's face).
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It's an attempt to discredit Ford's critics by the argument that they are incapable of levelling unbiased judgement. Shoot the messenger instead of message.
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Has anyone defended Layton's actions in this matter? You agree that an office holder being involved in the drug trade is worse than getting a handjob, so what is the hypocrisy here?
And just when did Rob Ford's qualifications for mayor involve a politician who a) never held that office, and b) is dead? Do Layton's failings somehow excuse the sitting mayor of involvement with murderous drug gangs?
... but aren't you really just 'justifying' the same way that Ford nation does? Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, after all.
I detest Ford. I also detest the polarization of viewpoint and lack of balance or moderation that hijacks informed discourse. This is what breeds support for the likes of Ford as everybody rallies to their banner.
... but aren't you really just 'justifying' the same way that Ford nation does? Bad behaviour is bad behaviour, after all.
Look, I've already conceded that I believe the crack issue is worse. My point is not to exonerate Ford by pointing to Layton, but only to understand Cowboylogic's point a little better and counter the absurd 'lefties' are beyond reproach theme here. I mean come on, only 'righties' use stucco?
I detest Ford. I also detest the polarization of viewpoint and lack of balance or moderation that hijacks informed discourse. This is what breeds support for the likes of Ford as everybody rallies to their banner.
One is dead. The other is mayor of this city and the topic of this thread.but explain to me how the ongoing support for Layton despite his indiscretions and lack of character or judgement is any different than the ongoing support for Ford?
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