nfitz
Superstar
Agreed. I gave up and simply concluded that I'd avoid that area if I'm driving around next weekend.
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Roads: Highway 401 Widening - Highway 8 to Highway 410 (MTO, U/C, Planned)
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Dan416
Senior Member
Damn that's twice in one day we're in agreement.
But seriously it was terribly written. Maybe if they broke it down into paragraphs at least it'd help.
timio
Active Member
Let's try this again, with paragraphs:
This looks like enough to get the EB lanes over to the new collectors, or very close to being ready to do so, but we'll have to wait and see. Unlike when the WB lanes moved over, this does not suggest that the highway will close and re-open in the collectors.
This looks like enough to get the EB lanes over to the new collectors, or very close to being ready to do so, but we'll have to wait and see. Unlike when the WB lanes moved over, this does not suggest that the highway will close and re-open in the collectors.
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Paolo
Guest
it looks like they still have to demolish the old highway 10 support walls before they re-open the lanes to commuter traffic. Those old highway 10 support walls had no space for a paved shoulder, so it looks like the new highway 10 bridge will have ample shoulder lanes on both the collector and express side
Dan416
Senior Member
The old "Hwy 10" supports under the new Hurontario bridge really need to go. Dunno why they didn't just get rid of them in one shot when they were doing the demolition before.
Markster
Senior Member
They demolished only what was necessary. Remember that they closed the entire 401 that night.
The stumps are closer to the express lanes than the new collectors. The rest can wait until traffic is shifted away to the new collectors. That will give them ample manoeuvring room to complete the work.
Dan416
Senior Member
Yeah but if you're going to go to the effort to close the 401, as they did at the time, why not take the extra time to fully remove them? How much longer would it have taken?
Markster
Senior Member
Frankly, they wanted to open it in the morning.
There's going to be a lot of bridge footing in the ground that they're going to pry up, and that's going to be a slow process.
I don't really see what the rush is. There's a lot of work to be done on the old express lanes, and if they can work on the footings at the same time, while the traffic is routed farther away through the new collectors, then it just sounds like prudent project management.
There's going to be a lot of bridge footing in the ground that they're going to pry up, and that's going to be a slow process.
I don't really see what the rush is. There's a lot of work to be done on the old express lanes, and if they can work on the footings at the same time, while the traffic is routed farther away through the new collectors, then it just sounds like prudent project management.
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Paolo
Guest
Yo, to my amazement, they closed off the entrances to the highway 401 this morning, even closed the gate and put pylons, but did not put any advance signage on any of the roads that lead to the expressway. They did this to the Mavis Entrance, the Highway 10 Entrance, and possibly even the dixie entrance (couldnt check dixie it was too far away)
What they should do is erect a sign somewhere like a block or 2 away from the highway interchange, which gives motorists enough time to plan an alternate route. they could easily put a recommended alternate route also, like "use 403 instead" lol its the small things that the MTO doesnt do that annoys motorists.
While I was driving on the overpass I saw that the traffic was down to one lane eastbound, not sure what they were doing? were they moving traffic from the express to the collectors to demolish the old highway 10 bridge support walls?
What they should do is erect a sign somewhere like a block or 2 away from the highway interchange, which gives motorists enough time to plan an alternate route. they could easily put a recommended alternate route also, like "use 403 instead" lol its the small things that the MTO doesnt do that annoys motorists.
While I was driving on the overpass I saw that the traffic was down to one lane eastbound, not sure what they were doing? were they moving traffic from the express to the collectors to demolish the old highway 10 bridge support walls?
timio
Active Member
According to CBC, they've transferred all traffic to the collectors for the next year, like they've done in the Westbound lanes.
I didn't go through there this morning due to horrible congestion caused by an accident. Got off at Mississauga Rd. and took the 407 across to the 427.
I didn't go through there this morning due to horrible congestion caused by an accident. Got off at Mississauga Rd. and took the 407 across to the 427.
Haljackey
Active Member
Do you have a link to that story? Looking for updates.
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Paolo
Guest
me two
timio
Active Member
Just on the radio. And I saw it on my way home too. No transfer opportunity until east of Dixie, therefore the merging 401 and 410 traffic will cause a backup until this is done.
Dan416
Senior Member
This morning I noticed the eastbound lanes not moving, so I didn't take them. On the way home I heard about the shifting of the lanes to the new collectors as well.
timio
Active Member
An update after driving through this morning: There is a one lane transfer to the express before the 410 from the left lane. Not signed as far as I noticed (yet).