Towered
Senior Member
Aside from Milczyn, why does Etobicoke keep electing complete fools to council? Bah.
- emphasis mine.Stop social engineering and start obeying the people.
I get on and off at Jarvis every day. What is being proposed is suicide.
Only 40% of downtown workers drive, and 10% take the Gardiner. That doesn't include pedestrians and cyclists. The number of cars downtown is steady while transit ridership is increasing.5. 76% of the people in this city drive to work. (The Toronto Star’s own figures.) Stop social engineering and start obeying the people.
...somehow, every large European city survives without a grid of expressways. And so have we. Relative to every American city and even Montreal, Toronto has a tiny inner-city expressway network. Making it a little tinier isn't going to change much. Since none of the things you so fervently wish had happened 75 years ago (demolishing businesses and homes to make room for cars, that is) is going to happen now, we may as well solve our transportation problems in the only way that we know will work: by building more transit.
Also, there's always a bite-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face element to a lot of these roads-at-all-costs arguments. The reason Toronto has a lot of traffic is that it's an extremely desirable place to live and work. One of the main reasons for that desirability is that we never ripped apart neighbourhoods with freeways. You want easy driving? Check out Buffalo. They've got all the empty lanes you could ever want.
Yeah, let's drag out the tired old ' European cities this, European cities that' argument. This is not Europe.
For your uninformed information, if you look at either side of Bloor-Danforth, for example, one side was torn down and demolished in the past 75 years: the city could have the cajones in those days to 'set back' the property line 4 or 5 meters at that juncture and allowed for the street to have been '6-laned' Vancouver did. Hamilton did. Sao Paulo did.
Silly Hall dropped the ball in the '20s and '30s and only woke up in the '40s when they laid out the freeway map to undo the damage done by previous councils criminal negligence, or just plain laziness. Take your pick.
Toronto is a tiny blip on the world stage. Three million doesn't even rank it in the top 50 cities in the world, yet we go off comparing ourselves to New York, L.A., London - whatever city suits the socialist cause du jour. Get a grip.
And I would wager most of the people that haunt blogger sites like these are the same who bother to show up to the Mayor's touchy, feely round table discussions and come up with all those feel good slogans that make this city so much better to live in.