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Roads: Fantasy Proposals

Neutrino

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Another change I'd like to see on Toronto's roads is more right in right outs. It's just not necessary for each small street and plaza to have its own signalized intersection.

Edit: @north-of-anything can you draw a Highway 2 - Kingston Road reconfiguration map?
 
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This is an idea I've had in mind since hearing about the Six Points reconstruction project - there are an unsettling number of this kind of urban interchange east of Yonge (that being, more than 0). So I redesigned this intersection to have a roundabout, with the Scarborough War Memorial located in the middle of the roundabout - it could be anywhere, but I think here it looks nicer, and any location would be more pedestrian friendly than where it is now. Part of the freed-up land would be used as a yard for rapid transit along Kingston Road. Kennedy Road would be extended at a sharp angle to terminate at Kingston Road, allowing two-way access between Kingston and the Highview Avenue neighbourhood. The land between the carhouse/LRT yard and Kennedy Road, if I did not underestimate the amount of space required, could be developed or left as a park.
How would you accommodate at-grade/on-street in a traffic circle layout?

Fun with maps!
 

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^There are roundabouts with LRT tracks running through them no?
 

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This is an idea I've had in mind since hearing about the Six Points reconstruction project - there are an unsettling number of this kind of urban interchange east of Yonge (that being, more than 0). So I redesigned this intersection to have a roundabout, with the Scarborough War Memorial located in the middle of the roundabout - it could be anywhere, but I think here it looks nicer, and any location would be more pedestrian friendly than where it is now. Part of the freed-up land would be used as a yard for rapid transit along Kingston Road. Kennedy Road would be extended at a sharp angle to terminate at Kingston Road, allowing two-way access between Kingston and the Highview Avenue neighbourhood. The land between the carhouse/LRT yard and Kennedy Road, if I did not underestimate the amount of space required, could be developed or left as a park.
Nice. But I'd probably choose a different location for a potential streetcar/LRV yard. That area is prime for intensification. The interesting thing is that the flyover dates from the 1930s, and was built by the province to make Highway 2 a dual carriageway through Scarborough (with the later addition of Highway 2A from Highland Creek towards Oshawa). While I'd love to see it go, I still appreciate it while it's still there - one of the last remaining DHO 1930s structures.
 

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Another change I'd like to see on Toronto's roads is more right in right outs. It's just not necessary for each small street and plaza to have its own signalized intersection.

Edit: @north-of-anything can you draw a Highway 2 - Kingston Road reconfiguration map?
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Well, I tried!

I've never been anywhere close to this intersection, so I wasn't quite sure how much room I really had to work with. I opted on demolishing a pair of buildings on Morrish, and realigning Kingston Road so there are no longer three arterials awkwardly emptying into one-way ramps. I decided to keep the Lawson/Overpass interchange intact because there was a decent distance between the new intersection and the westbound ramps, and there is virtually no land that can be developed east of the overpass.
 

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Well, I tried!

I've never been anywhere close to this intersection, so I wasn't quite sure how much room I really had to work with. I opted on demolishing a pair of buildings on Morrish, and realigning Kingston Road so there are no longer three arterials awkwardly emptying into one-way ramps. I decided to keep the Lawson/Overpass interchange intact because there was a decent distance between the new intersection and the westbound ramps, and there is virtually no land that can be developed east of the overpass.
A few years ago the city in fact began a study to redevelop the roads in the area.




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I really like that section of Highway 2A, it's like a time capsule. Off the top of my head I can't think of another stretch of WWII-era expressway in Ontario that has gone essentially unmodified since its construction. (I know some of the structures along the 401 and QEW are still original, but the carriageways themselves bear little resemblance to what was initially built.)
 

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Well, they're still stretching subdivisions northward here, and they're going to build a school that backs onto where the bypass is going to go, I'm a little more pessimistic about whether it will be seriously considered again...
The link is officially back in progress. The provincial government is moving foward w. The bypass
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Fascinating. Do you have any projections about how long it will take to build that?
 

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One's an extension, the other is a whole new highway.

However, the PCs might fast-track it to get shovels in the ground by the next provincial election campaign.

Speaking of the PCs, I've really missed the MTO future highway projects PDFs. These used to be released yearly until the Libs got booted out. No I have no idea what's on the radar.
 
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