jmi22
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Yes, and…..yes. The smallest amount of research would do wonders for your ability to engage in this conversation.
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RapidTO: Master Thread
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Yes, and…..yes. The smallest amount of research would do wonders for your ability to engage in this conversation.
EdDrass
Active Member
Whoever wrote the story might want to connect with the Gleaner which went originally with an opinion piece attacking the opposition ... to having to apologize in the subsequent issue. The edition after that featured letters to the editor complaining the paper was too one-sided! Had they tried a more nuanced approach all along, as opposed to taking an activist position at the outset, the community would probably be better served.
Dedicated Streetcar Lane Painting Advancing RapidTO on Bathurst | UrbanToronto
With the FIFA World Cup set to arrive in Toronto in less than a year, work to install dedicated transit lanes along Bathurst Street to ensure reliable service during one of the world's largest sporting events has begun. After half a decade of debate and delays over RapidTO, the city-wide plan to...urbantoronto.ca
New frontpage story up on the Bathurst streetcar lane installation, TDLR as of the 17th lanes were in from Lakeshore to Fort York Blvd
EdDrass
Active Member
The truck out front of the place yesterday was a rather large-sized bit of research but I'll take your snark as partly deserved -- I usually prefer Google but had gone with Apple:
Sauga89
Active Member
While I am in favour of dedicated bus lanes on Bathurst, I would note that the entrance to that laneway is very narrow. A sign says that no vehicle wider than two metres can pass. I'm not sure a delivery truck could make it in.
jmi22
Active Member
I too wish that us good common folk on Admiral Road could force all publications to tow the party line, but unfortunately our Ministry of Truth is still in it's early stages of development. We'll get em next year...
EdDrass
Active Member
Have you ever worked in media, Jimmy? Lord preserve us if so. How about, "There's a proposal; here's why it's going ahead. There are objections; some have more merit than others. Overall the proposal's benefits outweigh its drawbacks." Then let the readers reply one way or the other. Where do you get that this amounts to censorship? Maybe you need to read 1984 again.
Northern Light
Superstar
I was down by Bathurst and Wellington today and noted the red 'paint'.......I also noted the VOCs it was emitting. (Volatile Organic Compounds). It wasn't freshly laid, not sure when they did this section....
Usually the smell isn't noticeable past a week or so of curing.
I noted that it didn't smell like paint; and I knew it wasn't, but couldn't remember what product they were using, so I checked.
Its this:
From the above:
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Very nasty stuff
Shouldn't pose any material health risk once cured and the most intense smells have abated...but you want to using top notch PPE if you're applying it.
From: https://mmachemicals.com/a-comprehe...rties-applications-and-safety-considerations/
Usually the smell isn't noticeable past a week or so of curing.
I noted that it didn't smell like paint; and I knew it wasn't, but couldn't remember what product they were using, so I checked.
Its this:
From the above:
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Very nasty stuff
Shouldn't pose any material health risk once cured and the most intense smells have abated...but you want to using top notch PPE if you're applying it.
From: https://mmachemicals.com/a-comprehe...rties-applications-and-safety-considerations/
Northern Light
Superstar
BlogTO (yes, I know) has picked up the above and residents along Dufferin have been up in arms over the smell/odor, the state of thew work site, and the fact that some workers on site were in full PPE with respirators, but locals weren't given any warnings to so much as close their windows.
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From the above:
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Wynne refers to local resident Adam Wynne.
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For the record here, the Guild Workers were following appropriate precautions. I do not accept the idea that a worker on-site requires PPE, but someone whose window is 10 or 20m away should not be told to close their window, and if they have respiratory issues, to consider sleeping elsewhere if feasible.
I also consider leaving the drums filled w/MMA open to the air when not in use poor practice.
The smell is extremely unpleasant, and I think its fair to say, at least a moderate risk with close or prolonged exposure. I'm fine w/its use, but the City should better inform residents/businesses and schools and take more care w/its site.
'Putrid chemical stench' from controversial Toronto transit project angers locals
A strong chemical smell wafted across multiple Toronto neighbourhoods last week, and locals have tied the concerning stench to a transit project in t…
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From the above:
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Wynne refers to local resident Adam Wynne.
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For the record here, the Guild Workers were following appropriate precautions. I do not accept the idea that a worker on-site requires PPE, but someone whose window is 10 or 20m away should not be told to close their window, and if they have respiratory issues, to consider sleeping elsewhere if feasible.
I also consider leaving the drums filled w/MMA open to the air when not in use poor practice.
The smell is extremely unpleasant, and I think its fair to say, at least a moderate risk with close or prolonged exposure. I'm fine w/its use, but the City should better inform residents/businesses and schools and take more care w/its site.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
Makes me wonder if this smell situation also happened when the RapidTO lanes were installed on Eglinton East back in 2020? If so, the TTC needs to come up with a solution to mitigate this problem with all future RapidTO projects.BlogTO (yes, I know) has picked up the above and residents along Dufferin have been up in arms over the smell/odor, the state of thew work site, and the fact that some workers on site were in full PPE with respirators, but locals weren't given any warnings to so much as close their windows.
'Putrid chemical stench' from controversial Toronto transit project angers locals
A strong chemical smell wafted across multiple Toronto neighbourhoods last week, and locals have tied the concerning stench to a transit project in t…
From the above:
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Wynne refers to local resident Adam Wynne.
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For the record here, the Guild Workers were following appropriate precautions. I do not accept the idea that a worker on-site requires PPE, but someone whose window is 10 or 20m away should not be told to close their window, and if they have respiratory issues, to consider sleeping elsewhere if feasible.
I also consider leaving the drums filled w/MMA open to the air when not in use poor practice.
The smell is extremely unpleasant, and I think its fair to say, at least a moderate risk with close or prolonged exposure. I'm fine w/its use, but the City should better inform residents/businesses and schools and take more care w/its site.
nfitz
Superstar
There's a difference between occupational exposure 250 days a year, than incidental exposure a couple of days, every few years.
This would be similar to how you don't see professional cleaners using the same products that we use in our own homes.
Northern Light
Superstar
Sure, but I've been around this stuff, the smell is noxious even at a distance; and I read the actual guidance and posted much of it above as well.
If you think its fine to expose people to that w/o notice, you're wrong and we disagree.
Towered
Superstar
This pisses me off. My son goes to school a block away from there.BlogTO (yes, I know) has picked up the above and residents along Dufferin have been up in arms over the smell/odor, the state of thew work site, and the fact that some workers on site were in full PPE with respirators, but locals weren't given any warnings to so much as close their windows.
'Putrid chemical stench' from controversial Toronto transit project angers locals
A strong chemical smell wafted across multiple Toronto neighbourhoods last week, and locals have tied the concerning stench to a transit project in t…
From the above:
View attachment 699000
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View attachment 699002
Wynne refers to local resident Adam Wynne.
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For the record here, the Guild Workers were following appropriate precautions. I do not accept the idea that a worker on-site requires PPE, but someone whose window is 10 or 20m away should not be told to close their window, and if they have respiratory issues, to consider sleeping elsewhere if feasible.
I also consider leaving the drums filled w/MMA open to the air when not in use poor practice.
The smell is extremely unpleasant, and I think its fair to say, at least a moderate risk with close or prolonged exposure. I'm fine w/its use, but the City should better inform residents/businesses and schools and take more care w/its site.
nfitz
Superstar
The workers aren't wearing respirators because it smells. Much of the stuff you wear respirators has a sweet smell!
I've never smelled it though - and really haven't heard about this issue before. I'm merely commenting about the PPE selection and the odour issue. If it smells like shit, then yeah, it might be necessary. But I don't see pig farmers notifying neighbours before they apply the stuff.
txlseries4
Active Member
Someone first posted on Bluesky last night, with the caption “Blasting past rush hour traffic on the completed portion of Dufferin RapidTO (up to Dundas)” and it’s now been shared to Reddit so many of you will see the video in the preview below
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Not trying to stir the pot, but that looks faster than an LRT. Just saying...