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  1. Filip

    Filip Senior Member

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    It's so amusing seeing America get indignant over activities it does to its allies, let alone enemies.

    I bet Russians are laughing given the American plant, Yeltsin, almost destroyed their country. Payback's a bitch. :D
     
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    This whole debacle is just another fight between an emperor and the praetorian guard.
     
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    Yeltsin was nowhere near the only one who nearly ruined that country, though he was wikkid at ruining himself.
     
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    Donald Trump's Walk of Fame star destroyed in Hollywood

    See link.

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    Darn, thought we had another suspect:
     
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    Vodka probably did a fine job - their life expectancy - especially for males - is where it is for a reason.

    AoD
     
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    Incorrect.

    Yeltsin - as a leader in a country that has always swayed to autocracy - had almost universal control of the country, including the army, after the USSR's failed putsch shortly after his election - and the collapse of the previous state.

    Under encouragement from American 'vultures' (I could use other words, but I'm going to be polite because the audience here is pro-American generally) - Yeltsin dissected the master controlled economy that existed under the USSR and sold its constituent parts for pennies on the dollar. Gazprom, the world's largest natural gas supplier, producer, etc was sold for a couple of million dollars. Let that sink in - all at the direct encouragement of vultures such as Jeffrey Sachs. The fact that that man can still speak about this glowingly abroad is a sign of sickness.

    Regarding the life expectancy of Russian men - have you looked at Canada's life expectancy in non-urban communities? Russia, unlike Canada, settles its arctic circle with hundreds of thousands of people and makes sure its vast territories are somewhat populated - this bodes poorly for healthcare, especially in a country without the material wealth of the west.

    If Canada can't ensure good quality of life for its rural/isolated communities, you expect Russia, 3x bigger, to do so? LOL

    I just hate how everything about Russia is discussed without context - I'd rather have good relations with Russia than poor relations, because they border us and they tend to be virulently strong willed about their interests (and our arctic is their interest).

    My $0.02.
     
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    The wholesale sell-off of state assets was done mostly by Russians and sold to Russians with the encouragement of....take a guess.....Russians. Putin himself was a huge proponent of the sell-off before his being anointed by Yeltsin as his successor. Some Americans may have made some money but this was a Russian game.
    Who owns Gazprom? Who are they friends with?
    The whole St Petersburg gang got the ball rolling well early in the 90s. Yeltsin was a puppet.

    As for their health issues, I don't think it has much to do with rural living. Just compare Russian male and female life expectancies: Male 66.4; Female 77.2 http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/russia-life-expectancy.
    That's a massive gap and is explained by a lot more than where these people live.
    Russian males are prone to dying by violence or addiction (mostly to alcohol, obviously).

    One of my closest friends is from Moskva and believe me when I say there's a very good reason for their low life expectancy and it has very little to do with living in far-flung places.
    They have some serious societal issues that need sorting.
    My friend doesn't even want to go back to visit.
    Young males in some circles are almost expected to be dead by 30.
    It's a bit of a shit show there and back country living ain't the problem.
     
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    Coming soon to a bookstore near you.

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    Omarosa secretly recorded Donald Trump and played it for others, according to insiders


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    Interesting analysis. On the 'urban-rural life expectancy' argument, like many other rural versus urban comparisons, the distinction is often unclear to me. One analysis from the mid-2000s showed rural parts of the prairies to show no statistical difference from the national average. No doubt, having ready access to the major trauma centres of large urban areas is a benefit, but many rural professions such as farming, logging or mining may be inherently more dangerous than more urban-centric occupations. It is also unclear to me that if a Toronto resident dies in a fiery crash in Muskoka how that is counted. There is a vast difference between rural Minden or Mildmay and rural Foleyet or Ear Falls, let alone Pond Inlet or Telegraph Creek.
     

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