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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

anb said:
What was the point of this change?! At this point they’re just trolling us with the lack of changes on the Kitchener corridor in general.
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I'm sure someone is happy they can get an extra 5 minutes sleep.

Though a bigger issue, is that they've cut off the 4 eastbound bus arrivals at Union after 9:35 pm on weekends.
 
No major news but from the Metrolinx Durham email newsletter borehole work continues for the Bowmanville Extension.

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Felix An said:
The Metrolinx acquisition of the Guelph Sub couldn't happen sooner enough!
P.S. Is the radio standby channel for the Metrolinx portion of the Guelph Sub between Georgetown and Kitchener still GEXR 1, or has it been upgraded to one of the GO NXDN channels? Is the channel for the CN portion of the sub still CN 1? I have not been in Toronto since April, and being the ham radio operator/scanner enthusiast as I am, I am curious.
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GO15 up to Bramalea
CN1 Bramalea to Silver
Gexr1 silver to Sturm
Cn1 Sturm to London
 
Bordercollie said:
But to increase speeds on that line you need to change the curves to be more straight, which will require you to change the profile of the tack bed.

You also need to make the curves longer so you will need to do some engineering in some places.

Does anyone know what the track speed was designed for originally? 50mph?
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I was in Peterborough today. Stopped by the old train station. Such potential if money and curves can be found.

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I see that GO Transit went to Havelock as late as 1992. Shame this wasn’t made a permanent route.

 
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Admiral Beez said:
I was in Peterborough today. Stopped by the old train station. Such potential if money and curves can be found.

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I see that GO Transit went to Havelock as late as 1992. Shame this wasn’t made a permanent route.

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Only VIA operated to Havelock
 
crs1026 said:
GO trains have operated one-of on the Havelock line as private charters, but GO has never operated a service on that route.

GO had the option of taking over when VIA bowed out, but declined.

- Paul
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Slightly off topic... but I do recall VIA using GO equipment to like London in the 90s due some shortage of lrc cars?
 
I think those bridge sections for the Bala Sub are for this bridge over the east don trail. Strange place to create a siding but it looks like they are creating space to add another bridge span.

They would need to add another bridge span to the bridge to the north and not sure if there is space under the Belleville Sub trestle without some modifications.
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innsertnamehere said:
great! but talk about useless times! You think they would have put their busiest trains as express trips.. (typically ~8:30-9am arrivals in the morning and 4:30-5pm departures in the afternoon)

These 4 express trips all solidly fall outside of normal commute hours, particularly the evening trains.

The good news is that Metrolinx seems to now be introducing trickles of new trips every few weeks, presumably as engineers graduate from training, so hopefully they can incrementally fill in the core hour express route trips soon.
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Although it's not the busiest period of the day, it may well have been the most crowded. In the previous eastbound timetable, service was every 30 minutes until the 08:00 arrival at Union, then every 15 minutes from 08:00 to 09:00 (inclusive), then every 30 minutes for the rest of the day. Increasing service from 2tph to 4tph from 07:00 to 08:00 is probably more critical than increasing service from 4 tph to 6 tph from 08:00 to 09:00.

In the PM, westbound service was every 15 minutes from 16:15 to 17:45. The two new express trips fill the first 30-minute gaps before and after that period.

Adding in those express trips didn't require any changes to existing trips, but restoring 6 tph will require a bigger change to the schedule. Half of the current trains will become expresses, and then new trains will be added between Oakville and Union to fill the local slots they currently occupy.

It will be interesting for GO to see how many current peak-period riders shift their work schedules to make use of those shoulder-peak express trips.

Krypto98 said:
If you look at the pdf it's 4-5 mins earlier
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You're right, the PDF timetable and the trip planner show the departure time as 05:21 from London, while the announcement says 05:16.

The AM departure time changes are:
6 min later at London
6 min later at St Marys
4 min later at Stratford
1 min later at Kitchener
No changes east of Kitchener

So the travel time savings are:
2 min St Marys to Stratford,
3 min Stratford to Kitchener,
1 min Kitchener to Guelph.

This increases the average speed between Kitchener and Guelph from 74 km/h to 79 km/h, and increases the average speed from London to Kitchener from 38 km/h to 39 km/h.

Hopefully the 38 km/h average in October 2022 was rock bottom for the London-Kitchener line, and average speeds will only improve from here.
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reaperexpress said:
Although it's not the busiest period of the day, it may well have been the most crowded. In the previous eastbound timetable, service was every 30 minutes until the 08:00 arrival at Union, then every 15 minutes from 08:00 to 09:00 (inclusive), then every 30 minutes for the rest of the day. Increasing service from 2tph to 4tph from 07:00 to 08:00 is probably more critical than increasing service from 4 tph to 6 tph from 08:00 to 09:00.
Restoring 6 tph will require a bigger change to the schedule since the half of the current trains will become expresses, then new trains are added between Oakville and Union to maintain the 15-minute local service.



You're right, the PDF timetable and the trip planner show the departure time as 05:21 from London, while the announcement says 05:16.

The AM departure time changes are:
+6 min at London
+6 min at St Marys
+4 min at Stratford
+1 min at Kitchener
No changes east of Kitchener

So the travel time savings are 2 min between St Marys and Stratford, 3 min between Stratford and Kitchener and 1 min between Kitchener and Guelph. This increases the average speed between Kitchener and Guelph from 74 km/h to 79 km/h, and increases the average speed from London to Kitchener from 38 km/h to 39 km/h.
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I thought that the removal of slow orders was supposed to make the train faster not slower.
 
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