crs1026
Superstar
The planned density for this area is significant, higher than say Mount Pleasant.
One can't have GO stations everywhere, but this one may have a sound basis at least for consideration.
- Paul
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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The planned density for this area is significant, higher than say Mount Pleasant.
One can't have GO stations everywhere, but this one may have a sound basis at least for consideration.
- Paul
Sunnyside
Senior Member
I always assume if we are planning for stations now, they should be spaced according to the tech we are going to employ. With electrification, what’s the minimum stop spacing we should have? The number of stations should then work backwards from there. I imagine EMUs have different capabilities than electric locos, but both are better than current diesel operations. And in Markham, the Stouffville line will be fully electrified, no?
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Ontario Newsroom
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Minister Mulroney and Ford making an announcement in Hamilton Tomorrow of some sort.
My bet is start of construction on Confederation GO - apparently construction trailers have shown up on site recently.
Allandale25
Senior Member
Ontario Newsroom
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Someone speculated to me this could be about the Confederation GO station.
nfitz
Superstar
I'd assume it's being done out of donations or endowment funds or something, rather than direct government funding.
Still seems like an awful idea - at least while the college isn't anywhere near the station. Why not name St. George station for York University - because that's where you have to change!
It's a slippery slope once you start adding university (let alone college) names to stations. Look at the absurdity in Montreal that's happened since Université de Montréal opened - and they didn't even get any money for that own goal.
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
If I was a betting man, I’d put my money on Confederation GO. After many years of delay, it will be quite exciting to see it start.Ontario Newsroom
Minister Mulroney and Ford making an announcement in Hamilton Tomorrow of some sort.
My bet is start of construction on Confederation GO - apparently construction trailers have shown up on site recently.
Northern Light
Superstar
If only they would announce running (more) service to the stations they already have; it would be an excellent complimentary announcement! LOL
Bordercollie
Senior Member
It would have been nice if those municipalities forgave that tax so that the railway could keep operating. Faliure to think outside the box.
Allandale25
Senior Member
lenaitch
Senior Member
They can't. The Municipal Act prohibits it. I'd only be guessing but suppose the thinking is that, if an exemption/reduction is granted, it sets municipalities against each other in a race to the bottom, and puts other taxpayers, including possibly competing other industries, in the position of subsidizing a particular industry.
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Trucks drive on roads that are paid for with taxes. Why can't railways? Or what if they invested that money to improve the railways performance in the form of a grant? There are ways to shuffle money around.
lenaitch
Senior Member
If nothing else, roads are publicly-owned property; private railways are not.
You chided the municipalities for not thinking "out of the box". I provided a reason why they can't. Without researching, I would think providing grants, which are funded by taxpayers and/or other levels of government, to a for-profit company might be problematic as well. Shuffling money around is cool - so long as it is legal and transparent.
Northern Light
Superstar
I would favour, as in the case in several countries, the state owning the track, and operators (private or public, owning their rolling stock, maintenance facilities, and being responsible for marketing/administration etc. )
This is comparable to highways/trucking companies. The government owns what is driven on; but not the vehicles doing the driving, nor does it pay the drivers.
I would agree it can be problematic, and probably shouldn't be done; but then add its done all the time, both by senior governments and by the City.
The provincial press releases are endless...........
Ontario Newsroom
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Lets look at what this one presser entails;
I would be perfectly happy to nix all of the above and ask why a for-profit business is asking for a hand-out...........but I'm simply pointing out that such is far from rare.
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Its also a thing at the municipal level in several ways.
The most notable would be the IMIT grants in Toronto to developers of office space ( a typical subsidy being worth tens of millions of dollars).....
But there are also 'Tower Renewal' programs,broadly seen as a social good; but which do serve to subsidize private, for-profit landlords.
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For all of that, I agree with you that having government pick winners and subsidize for profit businesses is generally a poor idea.
timio
Active Member
IKEA Confederation GO, you mean.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
The challenge with this question is that it's a catch-22.
The current plan proposed by ONXpress is to not use any EMUs, which is presumably justified by the fact that stations aren't that close together.
But then, in the absense of EMUs, the net time added per station stop is higher, negatively impacting the business case for new stations.