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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Those are some tight curves. What kind of trains are supposed to be able run on those.

The existing fleet.

Luckily since this is before/after a station (depending on the direction you are going, and there is a new station before the second curve, you already have to slow down/accelerate out of the stations. So its not a huge deal.
 
^ I'm almost certain it's grade separated because Metrolinx said that the route could operate "independently" of CP Rail.

You can double check here. This was recently released as noted a few pages back.

Re GM spur:

https://www.metrolinx.com/en/region...nement-Technical-Memorandum-post-PDBC-V17.pdf

>New bridge to be constructed on the GM spur over Hwy 401 parallel to current bridge with grade separation between Metrolinx and CP tracks north of the 401
ya so it is separated
 
Increasing GO service during an election should not be allowed. That being said, I hope this means Stouffville will finally get weekend trains again.
New services sure - but with increasing covid-recovery ridership, there's no reason to stop the restoration of services.
 
The alignment of the prior Bowmanville plan made more sense. It seems like the current routing is only being selected to maintain the current Oshawa station and which really wasn't the ideal location for Oshawa station anyways. The new plan shows Thornton's Corners station almost right across the 401 from the Oshawa station which would likely be the closest together of any two stations in the network. Thornton's Corners made sense with the old alignment because there was no Oshawa station. I wish they would use the old routing plan and then work to finding a way for VIA to switch to CP between Port Hope and Whitby with a stop at Ritson Road / Oshawa Centre station.
 
The existing fleet.

Luckily since this is before/after a station (depending on the direction you are going, and there is a new station before the second curve, you already have to slow down/accelerate out of the stations. So its not a huge deal.

Almost a mile and a quarter at 15 miles per hour is hardly what I would call "not a huge deal". That's a quarter mile longer than the former PSO that Metrolinx just removed through Guelph.

Dan
 
The alignment of the prior Bowmanville plan made more sense. It seems like the current routing is only being selected to maintain the current Oshawa station and which really wasn't the ideal location for Oshawa station anyways. The new plan shows Thornton's Corners station almost right across the 401 from the Oshawa station which would likely be the closest together of any two stations in the network. Thornton's Corners made sense with the old alignment because there was no Oshawa station. I wish they would use the old routing plan and then work to finding a way for VIA to switch to CP between Port Hope and Whitby with a stop at Ritson Road / Oshawa Centre station.

The issue with the old routing was the cost. It was deemed too expensive. Not to mentioned the logistical issues of two routes and Oshawa being an interchange between GO and VIA
 
^ it also more logistically challenging because of how close it intersected with the Whitby MSF and an additional Road rail grade separation was going to be required. I can't remember which road but I'll check the map later
 
^ it also more logistically challenging because of how close it intersected with the Whitby MSF and an additional Road rail grade separation was going to be required. I can't remember which road but I'll check the map later
victoria, champlain or stellar drive
 

Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney answered, saying that the government shares the desire to see the project move ahead as quickly as possible. She said discussions are still underway with CP to finalize a commercial agreement for the use of its tracks for the preferred route. A memorandum of understanding between Metrolinx and the Region of Durham has recently been formalized. Metrolinx also recently completed geotechnical work in the CP-owned corridor, a necessary preliminary step before any construction.
 
That curve is going to feel like the UP Express turn out to Pearson at highway 427. Squeaking wheels, derailment prevention guard rails, people wondering who designed this route, etc. The grades to get up over the 401 and for the track to pass over the CP line... I think this route is only "back of a napkin calculation" cheaper than the alternatives. The curves and gradients on the prior route would have been much more simple to engineer, and the length of the line being built would be shorter. I wish they had a detailed costing available to look at because it is hard to imagine where the savings are coming from.
 
I wish they had a detailed costing available to look at because it is hard to imagine where the savings are coming from
I assumed the savings they assumed from the route switch had come from when the GM plant had been shut down they were going to reuse the existing rail bridge. But then when the plant reopened they were stuck to the new route and then needed to build a new bridge.
 
I assumed the savings they assumed from the route switch had come from when the GM plant had been shut down they were going to reuse the existing rail bridge. But then when the plant reopened they were stuck to the new route and then needed to build a new bridge.
And do we know what kind of rolling stock is going to be used on that route?
 

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