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Clarington Council decides to purchase land for future Courtice GO train station
Thirty four-acre property is located on west side of Courtice road, north of the CP rail tracks
http://www.durhamregion.com/news-story/6690031-clarington-council-decides-to-purchase-land-for-future-courtice-go-train-station/



Clarington This Week
By Stefanie Swinson

COURTICE - The GO train is one step closer to chugging through to Courtice.

Clarington Council has decided to buy a property that will one day serve as the site of the future Courtice GO train station.

Councillors voted in an open session of Tuesday evening’s Council meeting following an in-camera portion which allowed them to look over the confidential report.

The 34-acre property, located just north of the CP rail tracks on the west side of Courtice Road, comes with a $2.7 million price tag.

That amount is tax dollars Councillor Joe Neal said would be better spent on the Courtice waterfront or building a new recreation facility in south Bowmanville.

He voted against purchasing the land. Coun. Corinna Traill also voted against the purchase. The rest of council voted in favour.

“It’s the Province’s project,” said Councillor Neal. “It’s not something we should sink our money into. Metrolinx has all the expertise. We don’t need to be acting as their land agent on this.”

Councillor Neal said there’s nothing he’d like to see more than a GO train station in Courtice but he feels the decision has already been made by the Province.

“It’s not a municipal project,” he said.

Clarington Mayor Adrian Foster said expanding GO train service to Clarington is probably the number one request by residents.

“Purchasing the property simply makes it easier for Queen’s Park to make a decision,” he said. “Municipalities that have been successful with gaining GO train service have been actively engaged and helping with the file.”

Mayor Foster went on to add that the Municipality is purchasing the land at the appraised value. That price was determined following an independent appraisal and negotiation with the property owners

“This is essentially locking in the price for Metrolinx,” he explained. “This is not a gift to the Province.”

Clarington intends to recover the cost of the property from Metrolinx as soon as it assumes ownership.

“The economic benefits to it would be gigantic,” said Councillor Steven Cooke, who also voted in favour of the purchase. “If we build a station there, that’s where all the jobs will come. It will make life easier for everyone.”

An independent economic impact study released in April showed the extension of the Lakeshore East GO line to Clarington has the potential for $1.1 billion in investment in Durham Region. The study also found that having all-day GO train service in place would unlock development of 42 sites within walking distance of the Clarington train stations. It estimated 13,000 full-time jobs would be created in Clarington alone. 
 Mayor Foster said he expects a GO train announcement from the provincial Liberal government “in the not to distant future.”
 

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11am from Aldershot eastbound to Union only 10 cars and is already rammed at Appleby (and not just the 'top of the stairs' cars).
 

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Isn't that common on a Sunday now they've gone to every 30-minute service. Presumably this is for the 1 pm Jays game - though many would have taken the 11:30 train and even the 12:00 train, which arrives just as the first pitch goes.

Weekend ridership certainly seems to be increasing, based on my own observations.
 

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Even rush hour isn't as bad as Jonny5's picture, at least every time I've taken the GO train at 5pm.
Most of the Barrie Line trains are like that well before reaching Union in the mornings, and departing it in the evenings, as are most Milton trains I've looked at while walking along platform 3 when they're boarding. When I lived near Exhibition TFC games, the CNE, jays games, etc yielded much busier trains than that.
 

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Most of the Barrie Line trains are like that well before reaching Union in the mornings, and departing it in the evenings, as are most Milton trains I've looked at while walking along platform 3 when they're boarding. When I lived near Exhibition TFC games, the CNE, jays games, etc yielded much busier trains than that.
Yes, if you are in the middle of the line, that is a big challenge in morning peak. Incoming LSW trains are often full by Clarkson, and sometimes by Brone/Appleby after leaving Hamiltom or Aldershot.

The situation is better for those who live at the end of the line, so you get the first crack at seats.
 

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Last night on 'The Agenda' the MPP for Kitchener Centre was on a panel.

Daiene Vernile

She let slip that there will be a press conference with the minister of transportation concerning 'public transit' between Kitchener and Toronto, in approximately 2 weeks.
 

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And here's the video marked to the time she started mentioning this.

Last night on 'The Agenda' the MPP for Kitchener Centre was on a panel.

Daiene Vernile

She let slip that there will be a press conference with the minister of transportation concerning 'public transit' between Kitchener and Toronto, in approximately 2 weeks.
 

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Depends what one's definition of "very significant announcement" is. I'm very dubious that this will be anything more than a repeat of past promises, with the same vague and very long timeline.

If Toronto had one new Flexity streetcar for every photo op Del Duca has held to say nothing, we'd be bumper to bumper with transit.

- Paul
 

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Because the lack of grade separation compounds the issue that GO doesn't own the track.

The current off-peak service to Mount Pleasant avoids conflict with CN by always sticking to the south side of the corridor, while CN sticks to the north. It effectively operates as two separate single-tracked railways through the Brampton pinch point. But for service to continue west of Mount Pleasant, it needs to get to the north side somehow. That's where the grade separation comes into play. Note that during peak periods, most trains continue at least to Georgetown, so the existing conflict with CN routinely causes delays.

Current route of off-peak GO service and CN freight;
View attachment 77028

Combined with passing sidings west of Georgetown, we could extend the hourly service to Kitchener. And by completing the missing 600m of double track just east of Bramalea we could add a second local service between Bramalea and Union interleaving with UP, with the hourly Kitchener trains operating express through that segment, stopping only at Mount Dennis or Bloor. It wouldn't be an improvement in frequency for Brampton, but it would be an improvement in travel time, which has the same end result.

Potential route of off-peak GO service and CN freight with Mount Pleasant grade separation:
View attachment 77029
Except that's not how it works at all.

By single-tracking the section that you've indicated, you're reducing the overall capacity of the line by a huge margin, because you now need the freights to stage at either end of the single track when a train is coming in the opposite direction.

What actually happens is that while GO (and CN) prefers to keep the GO trains on the south track, they are not bound to that track. This allows them to run a lot more trains in both directions as there is no longer a need to stage trains anywhere unless a GO train is to pull ahead of a freight.

Also, one small issue with your diagram - the third, south track is currently dead-ended immediately west of Mount Pleasant. This prevents freights from using that track in any instance.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.
 

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