GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

[WB62]

What do you guys think will be the future express service would be on the trains? Would it be like the Niagara weekend trains or would we continue to just run trains express from Union to a certain stop and then all stops after but its all day service.

This is my vision of the GO network after GO Expansion, going off of what Metrolinx and OnXpress has said. This is rush hour service:

 

[reaperexpress]

What do you guys think will be the future express service would be on the trains? Would it be like the Niagara weekend trains or would we continue to just run trains express from Union to a certain stop and then all stops after but its all day service.

Each business case document has been different than the others, and many contradict each other, but it is fairly consistent that when trains go "express" (i.e. where the express service overlaps with a local service) they don't run completely non-stop, they do stop at important stations.

One detail which GO has specifically stated is that no GO trains will skip Exhibition or East Harbour. They noted this when they changed the platform configuration of East Harbour to add platforms on all tracks.

PS I almost wrote West Harbour - Mx station names are so frustrating. If West Harbour and East Harbour were called Hamilton Harbour and Toronto Harbour respectively this confusion wouldn't happen.

My preference for off-peak stopping patterns - loosely based on business case documents is here:

 

[Allandale25]

 

[APTA-2048]

System wide signal problems. Trains holding at next station for now. Shuttle buses apparently planned.

 

[Allandale25]

 

[Richard White]

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It's not Kitchener. It is literally everything.

 

[EnviroTO]

About the efforts to make all-day 15min service available on the core network.... perhaps this represents a minor obstacle? Should GO maybe find a way to disconnect from CN where possible? Is the reason nothing is running due to Union station operations?

 

[ShonTron]

It seems odd that this is being blamed on CN, when GO does much of its own dispatching these days at a location in Oakville, including most of the Lakeshore Line (only west of Burlington is it owned by CN.)

 

[Richard White]

About the efforts to make all-day 15min service available on the core network.... perhaps this represents a minor obstacle? Should GO maybe find a way to disconnect from CN where possible? Is the reason nothing is running due to Union station operations?

If it was related solely to issues with the UCRS they would at least be running service to on the outskirts of the system i.e. Oshawa to Guildwood or Aldershot to Port Credit.

 

[Richard White]

It seems odd that this is being blamed on CN, when GO does much of its own dispatching these days at a location in Oakville, including most of the Lakeshore Line (only west of Burlington is it owned by CN.)

Indeed. I do believe this is a GO Transit issue. If it was a CN issue then why are VIA trains still running out of Union.

 

[Jonny5]

Indeed. I do believe this is a GO Transit issue. If it was a CN issue then why are VIA trains still running out of Union.

VIA has used some interesting wording saying it is "a CN system failure affecting Metrolinx" and that their trains are only "delayed" in and out of Union Station

 

[crs1026]

I am told that the specific equipment that has failed is CN owned but dedicated to GO use.

GO is transitioning to its own dedicated equipment, but that is a long term transition.

- Paul

 

[Richard White]

I am told that the specific equipment that has failed is CN owned but dedicated to GO use.

GO is transitioning to its own dedicated equipment, but that is a long term transition.

- Paul

Well.. this evening should be fun.

 

[Algnqn]

I am told that the specific equipment that has failed is CN owned but dedicated to GO use.

GO is transitioning to its own dedicated equipment, but that is a long term transition.

- Paul

Someone on Reddit pointed out that Cn's website (CN.CA) is down.
That doesn't bode well for the scale of this issue.

Some have mentioned it could be a ransomware attack, some quote Occam's razor (simplest reason is the most likely) and point at a failed software upgrade etc. To this I say then why would they have attempted it leading into the evening rush hour?

 

[Jonny5]

Someone on Reddit pointed out that Cn's website (CN.CA) is down.
That doesn't bode well for the scale of this issue.

Some have mentioned it could be a ransomware attack, some quote Occam's razor (simplest reason is the most likely) and point at a failed software upgrade etc. To this I say then why would they have attempted it leading into the evening rush hour?

Yeah it could also be offline from a crash because 50,000 people suddenly tried to access it, up from the normal 50 people per day.