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GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)

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Actually Amtrak runs 150 mph (240 km/h) through high level platforms at Mansfield and Kingston stations.
Both stations have low-level platforms, however. (Kingston is slated to get high-level platforms, but I don't know when that is scheduled to be done.) I was referring to stations with high-level platforms.

Another example of overabundance of care is the fact that UP trains need to run the bell while pulling in an out of Union and Pearson, even though both have platform screen doors. Though this probably has more to do with Transport Canada than it does with Metrolinx.
It is, in theory, a hell of a lot easier to change a Metrolinx mindset than it is to change a Transport Canada regulation.

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The south end of Weston Station is pave and open to the public. Still some work to be done all around and could be done by the end of Jan.

The John St bridge is still many months away before going into service and is behind schedule. Lot more up on site










 

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Not sure if this has been posted yet:

"Thank you to those of you who attended our Scarborough-Markham Railway Expansion Public Meeting on Tuesday, December 8 at the Agincourt Community Centre. We have gathered the questions raised in the meeting and these are available for review here. The presentation for the meeting can be found here.

As mentioned, we will be having regular meetings and opportunities for residents to find out more about the project. Stay tuned for the March invitation. There will also be public meetings in June and September.

In the meantime, you can stay connected by contacting your Community Relations Team, at scarboroughmarkham@metrolinx.com or by calling 416.244.5303. For more information on the project, please visit our website at metrolinx.com/RERscarboroughmarkham."
 

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That pretty much ends SmartTrack as anything other than a 15-minute RER service, with 4 tracks in much of the corridor. You'd need 2 more for more frequent SmartTrack service. You might have been able to squeeze 5 in, but not 6.
 

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I forsee upgraded signalling systems to squeeze in Smart Track on existing trackage.
For every 10-minute service ... maybe. For every 5-minute service? You need 2 dedicated tracks.

With the reported demand for every 5-minute service, they might have to ultimately run every 3-minute service.
 

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For every 10-minute service ... maybe. For every 5-minute service? You need 2 dedicated tracks.

With the reported demand for every 5-minute service, they might have to ultimately run every 3-minute service.
Unless...you run a 5-minute stoppoing RER on two of the four tracks, routing it towards Agincourt, and an express RER that only stops east of Scarboro on LSE on a 15-minute headway on the other two, intermingled with VIA. You could give the stopping RER a fancy brand name. Like, say, Something-ending-in-Track.

LSE would need new signals, as the current block lengths are too long for 5- minute headways. The block lenghts directly correlate to how frequently trains can operate.

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That pretty much ends SmartTrack as anything other than a 15-minute RER service, with 4 tracks in much of the corridor. You'd need 2 more for more frequent SmartTrack service. You might have been able to squeeze 5 in, but not 6.
Metrolinx/GO like doing things incrementally for maximum expenditure and time used.

More seriously, the funded electrification test on Lake Shore East is in the critical path for RER (and Smart Track) and this track was presented (unofficially at least) as a requirement for that test. This is in-line with the Barrie Line tender for a small piece (passing track, a few station modifications) of the required RER infrastructure simply because it was ready to go.


They'll happily issue another contract for another track or 2 at a later time. Still needs an EA, expropriation, and funding. Promised funding and a firm agreement are 2 very different things, it can take the feds years to work out details of an agreement and the city has no funding plan at all for it's share (likely going to require a tax bump to boost borrowing cap).
 
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Unless...you run a 5-minute stoppoing RER on two of the four tracks, routing it towards Agincourt, and an express RER that only stops east of Scarboro on LSE on a 15-minute headway on the other two, intermingled with VIA. You could give the stopping RER a fancy brand name. Like, say, Something-ending-in-Track.l
That leaves you with only 2 tracks for the VIA/Lakeshore East services - yet today you already need 3 tracks for that services east of Scarborough Junction, let alone once RER is complete! And that leaves nothing for the Stouffville non SmartTrack trains.
 

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That leaves you with only 2 tracks for the VIA/Lakeshore East services - yet today you already need 3 tracks for that services east of Scarborough Junction, let alone once RER is complete! And that leaves nothing for the Stouffville non SmartTrack trains.
True, if the RER express was to stop west of Scarboro there would be a problem. But VIA can coexist with express RER on 2 tracks Scarboro-Union provided RER doesn't stop.

I was thinking that RER-LSE trains would run express Union-Scarboro, duck onto their own tracks east of Scarboro (there is an EA under way for a 3rd track east of Guildwood, why not go for 4 Scarboro-Durham Jct) and begin making stops east of there. You could have RER-LSE make the stops closer in also, in which case they have to get out of VIA's way....but it makes more sense to have the Agincourt trains make all stops so that it's a true transit-flavoured RER. LSE customers won't mind skipping stops between Union and Eglinton.

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True, if the RER express was to stop west of Scarboro there would be a problem. But VIA can coexist with express RER on 2 tracks Scarboro-Union provided RER doesn't stop.
It's not the express trains that are the issue, but the 15-minute Lakeshore East service. Might be able to skip Scarborough, but there's a lot of traffic to and from Danforth, with people changing there to the subway.
 

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It's not the express trains that are the issue, but the 15-minute Lakeshore East service. Might be able to skip Scarborough, but there's a lot of traffic to and from Danforth, with people changing there to the subway.
you mad? There ain't NOOOOBOODDDYYY transferring there. Its all local use. The GO fare integration program got something like 30 purchasers.

 

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you mad? There ain't NOOOOBOODDDYYY transferring there. Its all local use. The GO fare integration program got something like 30 purchasers.
This just isn't true. Everytime I'm boarding there, heading into Union, I see people on the eastbound platform, heading in the Oshawa direction (that train leaves 4 minutes before the westbound, typically).

The fare integration program, does nothing for those people, who are riding between Danforth and stations further east. It's only for passengers who travel between Danforth and Union and Danforth and Exhibition.

It's true that the uptake on that is low (though much higher at Danforth than Union). But it has nothing to do with Lakeshore East service - if anything, it demonstrates how little demand for SmartTrack running every 15 minutes.
 

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