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General cycling issues (Is Toronto bike friendly?)

Do you cyclists have no idea how silly [...]

Do you have any idea how silly you sound right now? Just think for a second. Cyclists are people riding bicycles. I don't think anyone here is posting on a mobile device while riding, or at least I hope not.

I'm guessing you're referring to people who at any point have ridden a bicycle, so I guess I'm a "cyclist" in your mind. I cycle to work since there is a bike path leading directly from my apartment to my work, making cycling the fastest way to get there. But if I'm going to downtown I take the subway, and when I'm going to Waterloo I take the GO bus. Like everyone else, I'm just trying to get from A to B using what I consider the best mode for the trip.

Please stop trying to divide people into homogenous groups by supposed mode choice.
 
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Exactly. Snow removal needs to happen so that everyone can get around in the manner of their choice, especially walking.

The main problem is that on-street bicycle lanes are fundamentally impractical for snow clearance.

Last winter, I got fed up and shoveled out a bike lane on my commute. It turns out that it was a waste of effort because fairly soon after, a plow came by and cleared the road, including the bike lane. At that time, the lane was perfectly clean.

But by the time I actually did commute an hour later, the lane had filled up with ice and grime kicked up by the adjacent cars so I had to ride in the mixed traffic lane anyway.

Given our winters, our bike lanes need to be physically separated from the road with a barrier that stops the debris kicked up by cars. In order to avoid the high cost of removing snow, there should ideally be enough room between the roadway to pile snow from the main carriageway. Judging by the size of snowbanks during a typical winter, I think the minimum width of this buffer is around 2 m for a four-lane road.

The same thing goes for sidewalks too. The ones right next to the roadway tend to get covered in snow, while the ones set back get cleared once and stay cleared until the next snowfall.
 
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Do you have any idea how silly you sound right now? Just think for a second. Cyclists are people riding bicycles. I don't think anyone here is posting on a mobile device while riding, or at least I hope not.

I'm guessing you're referring to people who at any point have ridden a bicycle, so I guess I'm a "cyclist" in your mind. I cycle to work since there is a bike path leading directly from my apartment to my work, making cycling the fastest way to get there. But if I'm going to downtown I take the subway, and when I'm going to Waterloo I take the GO bus. Like everyone else, I'm just trying to get from A to B using what I consider the best mode for the trip.

Please stop trying to divide people into homogenous groups by supposed mode choice.
Don't mind spider, he always comes into this thread to insult people to ride bicycles and doesn't see cycling as a legitimate mode of transportation.
 
City of Toronto to spend $650,000 to plow snowy bike lanes

Too bad it will only start new year.

From Metro News, at this link:

Year-round cyclists in Toronto will have an easier commute next winter, as the city has drafted a plan to to plow its bike lanes.

The move comes as the city is renegotiating its snow clearance contract. Until now, there was no official level of service dedicated to bike lanes, meaning they were plowed in accordance with the roadway they shared.

“Our snow-clearing technology doesn’t remove the snow, it just moves it to the side and too often that means pushing it into the bike lanes,” said Coun. Mike Layton.

As a remedy, the city has identified priority bike routes and starting next year, those lanes will be plowed within 24 hours of a snowstorm.

“It’s our goal to reach bare pavement,” said Hector Moreno, a transportation services manager with the city. “If we can properly maintain the bike network, more people will use it.”

Although subject to budgetary approval, Moreno estimates the policy will cost roughly $650,000 (the city’s annual snow-clearing budget is $85 million). However, that only includes routine plowing and salting; full snow removal could cost as much as $3 million a year.

“Take Sherbourne Street, for example,” Moreno said. “We have a dedicated bike lane there, but the snow has to go somewhere. The snow gets pushed on to the adjacent curb or boulevard and that has to be removed.”

A 2009 study by the transportation department found 10 per cent of Toronto cyclists pedal through the winter. However, 29 per cent of respondents said they would ride year-round if bike lanes were properly maintained.

“I biked into work this morning. It was a nice ride,” Layton said Tuesday. “We’re trying to encourage people to get out of their cars, and for those of us who bike as their daily commute, we need to make sure it’s safe out there.”

I can see the blood pressure rise up for the Ford brothers. I guessing Rob Ford will be voting no.
 
Year-round cyclists in Toronto will have an easier commute next winter

Sigh. Taglines like this suggest that making people angry (at each other!) is good for business for local media. Even in this article, where the author clearly understands that this is not about the current "year-round cyclists", they choose to put a heading which completely misses the point.
 
Sigh. Taglines like this suggest that making people angry (at each other!) is good for business for local media. Even in this article, where the author clearly understands that this is not about the current "year-round cyclists", they choose to put a heading which completely misses the point.

I did not find the reporting on this to be inflammatory at all.......it laid it out quite clearly.....currently, 10% of regular Toronto cyclists ride year round......that number, according to polling, would increase to 39% of cyclists if there was proper winter maintenance.

From that we can arrive at pretty decent numbers to judge whether we think this is a worthwhile move.

Someone told me yesterday (on Twitter) that cycling has a 2.5% share of the transport/transit pie in the city.

So, presumably, that is dropping to .25% in the winter and, according to that poll, would increase to 1% in the winter if the maintenance was performed.

So the question, in financial terms, is increasing the snow clearing budget from $85million a year to $88million a year worth it to make cycling safer, more violable and pleasant for that 1%? On the surface (bad unintended pun) that would be a 3.5% increase in a budget for 1% of the people and might get dismissed......but in the scheme of things, to me (a non-biker) it does not seem that outlandish to provide safe options for mobility.
 
I did not find the reporting on this to be inflammatory at all.......it laid it out quite clearly.....currently, 10% of regular Toronto cyclists ride year round......that number, according to polling, would increase to 39% of cyclists if there was proper winter maintenance.

I didn't find the reporting to be inflammatory either. I was only talking about the wording of the heading and tagline, which is simply another instance of the typical media rhetoric: phrasing things as "cyclists benefit from...", as if there is some small group of people (0.2% of people in this case) that are being pampered at everyone else's expense. My guess is that these two lines were written by someone other than the author.
 
Someone told me yesterday (on Twitter) that cycling has a 2.5% share of the transport/transit pie in the city.

So, presumably, that is dropping to .25% in the winter and, according to that poll, would increase to 1% in the winter if the maintenance was performed.

So the question, in financial terms, is increasing the snow clearing budget from $85million a year to $88million a year worth it to make cycling safer, more violable and pleasant for that 1%? On the surface (bad unintended pun) that would be a 3.5% increase in a budget for 1% of the people and might get dismissed......but in the scheme of things, to me (a non-biker) it does not seem that outlandish to provide safe options for mobility.
Your math isn't making much sense. It assumes that the other 99% of people are either driving or taking the bus. What about people who don't use the roads at all such as those who take only the subway or only the GO Train? Should they be included in the snow clearing budget?
 
Your math isn't making much sense. It assumes that the other 99% of people are either driving or taking the bus. What about people who don't use the roads at all such as those who take only the subway or only the GO Train? Should they be included in the snow clearing budget?

Pedestrians (who are the most efficient use of space) aren't included. The winter road clearing on local roads is a joke. So it makes sense that bikes also get crappy service. And transit riders also need clean sidewalks to get to stops (and bus riders need clean streets).

Toronto doesn't prioritize snow clearing and has allocated their money elsewhere for all modes of transportation. (including a lot of pet projects)
 
Your math isn't making much sense. It assumes that the other 99% of people are either driving or taking the bus. What about people who don't use the roads at all such as those who take only the subway or only the GO Train? Should they be included in the snow clearing budget?

I does not assume anything about the other people (nor was a 2 minute calc "designed" to be accurate to perfection) it was meant to compare the current state (no snow clearing on bike paths) to the proposed. So we have a budget of $85mil for the current mix of people getting around.....which includes subways, GO Trains, cars, buses, walkers, and, it appears, .25% of those in winter are cyclists......moving the budget to, potentially, $88mil to get that cycling portion up to 1% means a 3.5% increase in the snow clearing budget....that's all it was meant....what we used to call a back of the envelope calc and even as a non-cyclist I don't think it is an outrageous expenditure if it enchances our mobility options and safety of those citizens who choose to cycle year round.
 
So the question, in financial terms, is increasing the snow clearing budget from $85million a year to $88million a year worth it to make cycling safer, more violable and pleasant for that 1%? On the surface (bad unintended pun) that would be a 3.5% increase in a budget for 1% of the people and might get dismissed......but in the scheme of things, to me (a non-biker) it does not seem that outlandish to provide safe options for mobility.

The thing is, the amount involved in the proposed clearing of a number of priority bike lanes (i.e., not all bike lanes) isn't anywhere near 3.5% of the entire snow budget. It's less than 1% - about the same proportion of roads in the entire city that actually have bike lanes.

Regardless of who wrote the headline, or how it was written, there are always going to be people who see a relatively tiny increase in spending to benefit winter cyclists (who seem to be much more numerous so far this year) as a huge outrage, no matter how many orders of magnitude higher the spending on plowing roads is. These people tend not to realize how road maintenance is paid for to begin with, or that not clearing well-used bike lanes will result in winter cyclists riding in among their cars in traffic.
 
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TORONTO – The city is planning to spend nearly $650,000 of its $85 million road clearing budget removing snow from some bike lanes in the city.

The money is slated for the 2015/2016 winter season but the decision was made in May to look at the busiest bike lanes in the city. The city has started a pilot project to determine what type of equipment is needed and how best to clear some of the bike lanes this winter. That program will be expanded in 2015.

The decision was made before John Tory was elected mayor, but he said in an interview Wednesday it only makes sense to have them plowed.

“There are many people that still use the bicycle lanes and I’ve always said let’s focus more on a network of safe, sensible, separated bike lanes, the ones that are going to be used at all times of the year,” he said.

“And if you’re going to have them, those ones, what is the point in not plowing them. In fact, it’s even worse if you just plow all the snow of the road onto the bike lane.”

http://globalnews.ca/news/1732482/city-begins-program-to-clear-snow-from-bike-lanes/

So we got a cyclist-friendly mayor after all?
 
Want examples of what bicycle lanes should be like? Take a look at

America’s 10 best new bike lanes of 2014

at this link, for examples.

What a difference a year makes.

When we sat down to make the inaugural 2013 edition of this list, we had a few superstars up top: Chicago's transformative Dearborn Street, Indianapolis's spectacular Cultural Trail. But last year also had what sports fans might call a shallow bench. Outside a few cities, there just weren't that many new protected bike lanes to choose from.

We're thrilled to observe, looking at our inventory of such projects around the country, that as of 2014 this is no longer the case.

This was the year that saw protected lanes pop up in Tempe, Arizona; in Athens, Georgia; in Pentagon City, Virginia. Last year, half of the new mileage of protected bike lanes nationwide was in the Green Lane Project's six focus cities. This year, protected bike lanes grew twice as fast, and our six focus cities accounted for less than a quarter of the new growth.

As we wrote in August, protected bike lanes have become as American as deep-dish pizza.

After the last 12 months of traveling the country, quizzing the experts and tracking the news, here are our picks for the 10 best new bike lanes of 2014.


1) Polk Street, San Francisco

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Photo: Sergio Ruiz via Streetsblog SF.

The biggest obstacle to better biking in the United States is that most Americans simply haven't gotten a taste of what "great" feels like. Polk Street is barely a third of a mile long, but no one who rides it will ever fail to realize how nice a bike lane can get — and thanks to its location one block from City Hall, that group now includes most of San Francisco's supervisors.

Polk, painted green on each side of a one-way street, is separated by curbs and a planter adorned with local cacti. San Francisco's legendarily cautious public process kept this project in the works for 15 years, but when it finally opened last spring, Streetsblog called it "the best segment of bicycle infrastructure in San Francisco." The subtext: these changes can't pay off in ridership until they stretch further down Polk. In the next few years, we expect this demo to prove that greatness is contagious.


2) 2nd Avenue, Seattle



It was 2010 when Seattle news site PubliCola called 2nd Avenue's old stripe of door-zone white paint "The Worst Bike Lane in the City." So many rejoiced when Mayor Ed Murray announced in May that 2nd would be the site of downtown's first protected bike lane, and that it'd be finished in just four months.

The lane opened on schedule — but, tragically, nine days too late. A week before the new design was put in place, civil rights lawyer and new mom Sher Kung was killed by a left-turning truck while riding in the old painted lane. The bike-only signals that were about to be installed probably would have saved Kung's life. This fall, a ghost bike sat at the corner of 2nd and University — as much a memorial to Kung's life as the platoons of riders rolling, safely and comfortably, in the new protected lane.


3) Riverside Drive, Memphis

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Photo: City of Memphis.

In bike planning, Memphis is the anti-San Francisco. The city reasons that there's no better way to make its planning process public than to rapidly get a project on the ground, listen to the ways people react to it, and adjust as needed. "Ready, fire, aim," Memphis planner Kyle Wagenschutz says. Riverside Drive is a perfect example of that agile approach. Instead of reopening all four lanes to auto traffic after Riverside's annual closure for the Memphis in May festival, the city restriped half the street to create two lanes of car traffic, a bidirectional median-protected bike lane and a walkway. Soon, this route will be the best link between downtown Memphis and the new Harahan Bridge crossing to Arkansas.


4) Rosemead Boulevard, Temple City

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Photo: Streetsblog L.A.

Protected bike lanes passed a milestone in 2014: they made it to the burbs. In Virginia's Arlington County, Maryland's North Bethesda and here northeast of Los Angeles, street designers proved that protected lanes can be even more important in sprawling areas than they are in urban ones — especially when they're as straight and as visible as Rosemead's. No wonder this project, which opened in May, is already inspiring nearby Pasadena. If outer Los Angeles can build bike lanes this nice, anyone can.


5) Furness Drive, Austin

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Photo: City of Austin.

Austinites spent 17 years arguing about whether a $1.2 million bridge should cross a creek that separates a relatively poor neighborhood from its local elementary school. When bridge proponents won, it might have been the end of the story — if city planners hadn't asked whether, after all that, it might be a good idea to also think about the street between the bridge and the school. Eight months and $20,000 later, the city had used posts and paint along one side of an intersection-free road to create a safe and direct route to the school's door.


6) Broadway, Seattle

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Photo: Coppola Photography.

Seattle Bike Blog calls them "Smurf turds," but we'll just call them clever. The water-filled plastic loops combine with curbs, posts and parked cars to create a comfortable bikeway through the middle of one of the city's densest commercial areas. Though we're always wary to endorse a two-way protected lane on a two-way street, Broadway uses signal phasing and lots of green paint to keep bikes both separated and visible. Quality bike access to this major commercial street wouldn't have happened any other way.


7) SW Multnomah Boulevard, Portland

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The country's bikingest metro area has been moving slower lately with bikweway upgrades, but it's still thinking six moves ahead. When storm drainage plans required rain gardens along this key route through a bike-unfriendly neighborhood, the city threw in another $2 million to build a few blocks of elevated bike lane, too. The result, which separates bikes and auto traffic by its curb and a parking lane, is an oasis of bike-friendliness in Southwest Portland — but if nearby Barbur Boulevard gets a mass transit line and protected bike lanes of its own as proposed, Multnomah will suddenly become an essential link to the rest of the city. This project deserves its slot for vision alone.


8) Penn Avenue, Pittsburgh

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If Pittsburgh sticks with its plans, this rapidly executed project — announced in July, built by September — will become the spinal cord of a new on-street biking network that'll link the city's excellent riverside paths to commercial and cultural destinations downtown. Downtown business leaders lined up behind this project and Allegheny County followed too, promising connecting protected lanes on two nearby bridges. Though Penn's not perfect, neither was the status quo — and hey, neither were you when you were four months old. Pittsburgh has always been a city of action, and that's its style with bike lanes too.


9) King Street, Honolulu

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Photo: Being 808.

When this lane opened two weeks ago, the country quietly crossed a different milestone: Hawaii became the 26th U.S. state to get a protected bike lane. Temperate, flat and sunny, Honolulu could easily add "biking paradise" to its list of assets, and Mayor Kirk Caldwell seems dedicated to doing so. The bidirectional lane on King caught our eye for its length — two miles! — and its use of parking stops to create a nice temporary curb.


10) Broadway, Chicago

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Photo: John Greenfield, Streetsblog Chicago.

After Mayor Rahm Emanuel took office in 2011, his transportation team whirled into action, laying down 12 miles of protected bike lanes almost immediately. Three years later, Chicago is ... still building protected lanes faster than almost any city in the country. Emanuel's team added 3.25 miles in 2014, and a quarter-mile stretch of Broadway that offers one of the city's few protected lanes through commercial districts is arguably the most useful of those. If the country's embrace of bike transportation keeps accelerating, it'll be because cities like Chicago turn solid projects like these into standard operating procedure.
 

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