picard102
Senior Member
I give the police a C+ grade for this weekend. No need for anyone to resign.
What? Isn't Steve Paikin's eyewitness account of police beating another journalist proof? Despite this very clear and compelling account, the police are still denying they did anything wrong. Clearly they are lying, and if they will lie about one incident, they are likely lying about more.
I'm sure they did some good work over the weekend, but the abuse and brutality, particularly of those who did nothing wrong, is inexcusable, and requires the resignation of the Chief of Police.
What? Isn't Steve Paikin's eyewitness account of police beating another journalist proof? Despite this very clear and compelling account, the police are still denying they did anything wrong. Clearly they are lying, and if they will lie about one incident, they are likely lying about more.
I'm sure they did some good work over the weekend, but the abuse and brutality, particularly of those who did nothing wrong, is inexcusable, and requires the resignation of the Chief of Police.
If the police and Miller were giving the police a C+ I'd agree. However, both are giving them an A to A+. That's why Blair need to resign. And if Miller continues to claim the police did nothing wrong, with mounting evidence that there were beatings, systemic abuse at the detention facility, and the mass arrest of non-protesters, then he should resign as well.I give the police a C+ grade for this weekend. No need for anyone to resign.
Hang on ... are your claiming that one of the most respected journalists in Toronto is lying?The converse of that is that since we have evidence of black bloc rioters changing out of their black clothes and into regular clothes to blend in, thus lieing trying to hide their identities (lying) than they'd be lieing about being part of a peaceful protest.
Yes, it was good. I was there too on Sunday afternoon. I loved the lack of crowds. I assume you were gone by mid-afternoon Sunday ... as we were arriving a couple of vans pulled up with G20 Delegate signs (signs! with what was going on ... not bright), some security-looking types, and a lot of well dressed women. I was wondering whose spouses my 2-year old was annoying ... by constantly shouting that she wanted to see the dinosaurs.One of the nicer aspects of the protests was that they worked as a diversionary tactic to draw people away from that other great show of armed force, the ROM's The Warrior Emperor and China's Terra Cotta Army exhibition. I arrived at 2:55 on Saturday afternoon and breezed into the exhibit at 3:00 pm. And on Sunday I went back again - arriving at 11:00 a.m. and going right in.
Fabulous show. Best the ROM has done in ages!
If the police and Miller were giving the police a C+ I'd agree. However, both are giving them an A to A+. That's why Blair need to resign. And if Miller continues to claim the police did nothing wrong, with mounting evidence that there were beatings, systemic abuse at the detention facility, and the mass arrest of non-protesters, then he should resign as well.
I think too many people are looking at the situation far too much in black and white when it's all shades of grey... remember everything happened very quickly and police had to make fast decisions - some of which will obviously be strongly debated for a long-time. A couple thoughts on the various players.
No loss of life, no serious injuries to mention, and minimal damage to properties. (Imagine if one of the queen street store fronts had caught on blaze?)
CUrious... did you grow up in a cushy home in the burbs?
I'd give Toronto Police a A. Why? look at the results
No loss of life, no serious injuries to mention, and minimal damage to properties. (Imagine if one of the queen street store fronts had caught on blaze?)
The biggest problem faced by the police was not the Black Bloc, but the milquetoast protest tourists who had no clue what they were getting into and had their generation Y sense of entitlement telling them they have the right to do anything they want.