Dan416
Senior Member
Isn't that kinda the point? We could very well wind up with nothing. Yet some people seem blindly oblivious to the fact that Rob Ford was elected.
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Despite what Ford says The Streetcar in Toronto is here to stay.
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Isn't that kinda the point? We could very well wind up with nothing. Yet some people seem blindly oblivious to the fact that Rob Ford was elected.
nfitz
Superstar
I'm not aware of any construction work or contracts that was in place for Sheppard (either what was constructed, or what wasn't constructed) when Eglinton West was cancelled.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Wednesday, December 15, 2010
The scheduled date for the first meeting of the Toronto Transit Commission's nine Commissioners, appointed by City Council.
The scheduled date for the first meeting of the Toronto Transit Commission's nine Commissioners, appointed by City Council.
SimonP
Active Member
Looking at the news archives, it doesn't seem that there were any penalties for cancelling the Eglitnon West subway. The TTC reported that the wrap up costs were $41 million, but those were it's own costs. Maybe construction companies only started demanding high break-up fees after debacles like Eglinton.
nfitz
Superstar
As far as I know there was only one small construction contract that had started for Eglinton West, at Allan station. And I don't think it was the station construction. The main construction contracts hadn't started.
It's never been clear to me what they were digging, but I thought at the time I'd heard it was only a utility being moved ... and I think the tale has grown taller over the years.
rbt
Senior Member
I had been lead to believe it was a TBM launch point that was being built but when I think about it I've not seen evidence of a TBM cancellation for Eglinton West and if the intention was to use Sheppards then the timeline is wrong.
Utility relocation is seeming much more plausable.
Calrissian
Active Member
Dan416
Senior Member
Last I checked Eglinton was planned as LRT with at-grade and below grade sections, not a subway. That said, there's no guarantee Eglinton is going ahead at all. Or any of Transit City for that matter.
nfitz
Superstar
Perhaps you haven't heard, but the plan is that the LRT will run in a subway tunnel for over 10 km from near Black Creek to near Leslie, with no surface sections between this point.
As the project is fully funded by the provincial government, and even hardcore Tory councillors such as Stintz and Nunziata are in favour of it, it's hard to see council voting to cancel it.
Dan416
Senior Member
Go to Rob Ford's website and find it on there for me. Oh, that's right. It's not on there. Until Ford announces otherwise, we can assume it's as good as dead.
And furthermore, just because the tunnel's being built to accommodate subway in the future does not make it a "subway tunnel". It's an LRT tunnel because it'll be running LRVs.
Asterix
Active Member
Since it's not his money and the one signing the cheques hasn't indicated otherwise, shouldn't the assumption be that we can assume it will proceed unless Ford announces otherwise?
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Rob Ford is 1 out of 45 on city council.
A video on Why people voted for Rob Ford's transit vision:
[video=youtube;D4DRtpO-r5U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4DRtpO-r5U[/video]
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nfitz
Superstar
Ford announced during the campaign itself that if it didn't make financial sense to rediret Metrolinx's spending, then he wouldn't be building the Sheppard or Danforth subway extensions.
I've seen no indication that Metrolinx is going to transfer funding from York Viva like Ford promised.
Dan416
Senior Member
It's not Metrolinx that has any power. It's the provincial government. And McGuinty already said he's open to discussion on transit issues.
Justin10000
Banned
It's not Ford who McGuinty is going to talk to, it's the TTC chair. The front-runners for the TTC chair indicated they firmly support Metrolinx's plans. Even Michael Thompson supports the SELRT, and elements of Metrolinx's plans.
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