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Danforth Line 2 Scarborough Subway Extension

Hopkins123 said:
I'm just not getting this phobia to shut down the SRT line while construction is going on. It's like they're trying to blackmail/ransom Scarborough into accepting the McCowan alignment no matter the cost just to avoid a slight couple year's inconvenience. Just last week the subway was shutdown between Warden and Kennedy and people survived.
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Having SRT open while construction continues is a nice to have, all right. And having Warden-Kennedy shutdown is not the end of the world, granted. But both at the same time?
 
LNahid2000 said:
Why would both be shut down at the same time? Can't the existing Kennedy Station remain open until the new one is finished?
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The new Kennedy requires the track between Warden and Kennedy to be cut into in order for it to head northeast rather than east into Kennedy Station. It's arguable how long it would take to do, but there would be signal as well as power cutover to accomplish. Now, it depends on how it's staged because if the signalling project was done early enough, maybe you could cut in a dead end junction then to be connected later but that would reduce the dual downtime rather than eliminate it.
 
dowlingm said:
Having SRT open while construction continues is a nice to have, all right. And having Warden-Kennedy shutdown is not the end of the world, granted. But both at the same time?
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The Metrolinx report suggest the shutdown can be short - it's identified as one of the issues in the report (p. 24/27 of PDF)

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dowlingm said:
The new Kennedy requires the track between Warden and Kennedy to be cut into in order for it to head northeast rather than east into Kennedy Station. It's arguable how long it would take to do, but there would be signal as well as power cutover to accomplish. Now, it depends on how it's staged because if the signalling project was done early enough, maybe you could cut in a dead end junction then to be connected later but that would reduce the dual downtime rather than eliminate it.
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Sounds like a reasonable thing to do in order to save some mulit-millions from the current proposed perversity.

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jje1000 said:
Media needs to continue to apply pressure on this and make it a real political problem for Tory.
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They will. Might not turn out well as you may think for all of us. But the media will win as the greater the insanity the more media they sell. So they will be stirring the pot as hard as they can. They thrive off of a divided City.
 
dowlingm said:
The new Kennedy requires the track between Warden and Kennedy to be cut into in order for it to head northeast rather than east into Kennedy Station. It's arguable how long it would take to do, but there would be signal as well as power cutover to accomplish. Now, it depends on how it's staged because if the signalling project was done early enough, maybe you could cut in a dead end junction then to be connected later but that would reduce the dual downtime rather than eliminate it.
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That Metrolinx report said the Warden-Kennedy shutdown would be brief. We'd be looking at similar scale to the Yonge Line shutdowns planned for this summer.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
That Metrolinx report said the Warden-Kennedy shutdown would be brief. We'd be looking at similar scale to the Yonge Line shutdowns planned for this summer.
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I don't think it should be taken for granted as brief - but the process should be designed, managed and choreographed so that it is. Just as an example:


AoD
 
jje1000 said:
Media needs to continue to apply pressure on this and make it a real political problem for Tory.
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Scarberians should begin to boycott The Star, and make this a real funding problem for them.

The amount of hate the paper spreads is astounding.

Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But when a large media holding bang on this particular project, while not making a peep about the Vaughan extension whose northern section will have 1/3 of SSE's ridership, then they must be up to something.
 
Rainforest said:
Of course, SSE will be built; the real saving will be 10 to 15 min for riders who cut one transfer as a result.
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As stated by City Staff, the maximum time savings on the SSE will be 8 minutes. 10 to 15 mins in savings is nonsense. And of course, the 8 minutes in travel time savings does not include the longer bus rides Scarborough residents will have to the station, which will almost completely negate any travel time savings the elimination of the transfer offered.
 
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