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You honestly think it will be topped out by the end of 2020? I wish I was that optimistic.

This is a complex project (=more time), with what, 6 levels of underground? A general rule for construction is this: 1 month per level down, 1 month per level up, 1 month per complex (podium, mechanical) level, 1 week per standard level. 6 levels down means we are looking at a year just to get to grade. 4 levels of retail - 4 months. 10 weeks to build the hotel, then a mechanical level. You are looking at 2 years just to get to the residential levels, at the fastest.

Look at Aura linked above. I believe it had 4 levels down - in 24 months they had dug 4, built 4, built 4 podium levels, an amenity level, and 5 "regular" floors. Under my formula, that is 18 months. So it was even slower than that.
 
There are 4 levels of parking below grade and a concourse — and not all of it is excavated. Aura’s podium and its mass are far more substantial. The One is going to be relatively slender. But if your math pans out, that means that the podium and a few levels above will be built in around 1.5 years which brings us to Summer of 2019. Apple would have an entire year to build their store to make it to holiday season 2020 — a year during which the tower levels would climb. Maybe it’s not topped off but there’d be substantial completion well above their store and out of sight.

And like I said, Mizrahi has been consistent in saying that retail would open before the building was finished, going so far as to give two separate dates for completion of each segment.
 
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Mizrahi himself said that they planned to open the retail before the tower was complete.

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Now, I don’t think Apple would open under a heavily under construction tower but if it’s topped off and cladding is completed far above the Apple Store, I don’t see why Apple would need to wait for residential units to be ready which would take another year but would happen out of sight. From what I understand, staging is happening behind the building, not on Bloor or Yonge.

Yes, that's why I referred to the Aura example, where the retail in the podium opened when the tower was still under construction.
 
Urban Toronto’s very own Craig White in this detailed article about The One says:

The retail spaces in the podium are targeted for a first quarter of 2020 opening, with residential occupancy anticipated for 2022.

http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2017/05/one-approved-omb-now-2-storeys-taller

So even I wouldn’t say Q1 of 2020 but if Mizrahi says so and Urban Toronto reported it, I’d say holiday season 2020 is pretty doable. I think the question is whether Apple wants to open while a building rises above. There’d need to be some protection like what Aura did until it’s topped off and clad.
 
A general rule for construction is this: 1 month per level down, 1 month per level up

That's if it's a straight forward dig and forming job - something that isn't that case here.
 
There are 4 levels of parking below grade and a concourse — and not all of it is excavated. Aura’s podium and its mass are far more substantial. The One is going to be relatively slender. But I f your your math pans out, that means that the podium and a few levels above will be built in around 1.5 years which brings us to Summer of 2019. Apple would have an entire year to build their store to make it to holiday season 2020 — a year during which the tower levels would climb. Maybe it’s not topped off but there’d be substantial completion well above their store and out of sight.

And like I said, Mizrahi has been consistent in saying that retail would open before the building was finished, going so far as to give two separate dates for completion of each segment.

I would take any dates issued at this point with a grain of salt to be honest. I'm working on a project where we expected Fall/Winter 2017 occupancy, and it is now being pushed to Spring/Summer 2019 - and this is in a building that is nearly completed already (Kingsclub)

That being said, if the project is still targeting a 2020 completion, Apple would indeed know by now if they are moving forward with the location, and the deal would likely be finalized this year or early next year at the latest.
 
He's at the Leafs game tonight too
 
He's at the Leafs game tonight too

...sitting with Nick Kypreos and Denis Shapovalov, for maybe the oddest combination of people ever to sit together at a Leafs game.

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pic from DS' Twitter
 
Reported on MacRumors.com
https://www.macrumors.com/2019/01/09/apple-store-eaton-centre-yonge-bloor-toronto-plans/

Apple's efforts to modernize its chain of over 500 retail stores around the world may extend to Canada soon.

Apple plans to relocate its oft-crowded store at the Eaton Centre shopping mall in Downtown Toronto to a much larger space in the mall, currently occupied by apparel chain Abercrombie & Fitch, which will also be relocating within the mall as part of the shuffle, according to people familiar with the matter.

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<em>A view of the existing Apple and Abercrombie &amp; Fitch stores at the Eaton Centre</em>
It is also certainly possible that Apple could take over a few additional units surrounding Abercrombie & Fitch for an even larger store.

Just this week, Abercrombie & Fitch erected a temporary barricade for its new store, slated to open in spring 2019. This suggests Apple could take over Abercrombie & Fitch's current space within three to five months from now and begin constructing its new store for a potential grand opening by the end of 2020.

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Apple is currently located on the third floor of the Eaton Centre, while the existing Abercrombie & Fitch is situated almost directly beneath Apple on the second floor near the Queen Street entrance to the mall. Apple's mall-based stores are frequently in prime locations near entrances and escalators.

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<em>Apple's current store at the Eaton Centre in Toronto</em>
The biggest reason for Apple's planned move would be additional space. Abercrombie & Fitch has a 10,680-square-foot unit, more than twice the size of Apple's current 4,977-square-foot unit, according to an Eaton Centre floor plan.

Eaton Centre is North America's busiest shopping mall, with more than 50 million people passing through its atrium in 2017 according to one study. It is also home to Apple's only store in Downtown Toronto. An expansion would surely be a sigh of relief for not only customers but the team staffing the busy store.

Apple has greatly expanded both its product lineup and retail initiatives since the store first opened in 2006, one year prior to the iPhone. The additional space would better accomodate customers in many ways, ranging from Apple Watch try-ons to Today at Apple sessions to Genius Bar appointments.

The new store would also have an updated aesthetic. Apple's latest retail design typically includes large glass doors, large video screens for Today at Apple sessions and product marketing, and wall-mounted sequoia wood shelves called Avenues that display Beats headphones, iPhone cases, and other accessories.

Apple did not respond to a request for comment. Eaton Centre owner and management company Cadillac Fairview declined to comment.

Taller Ambitions

Another move that could help with the traffic at Apple Eaton Centre is Apple's rumored flagship store at the ground level of The One, a super-tall 85-floor condominium under construction at the corner of Yonge Street and Bloor Street, one of the busiest intersections in Toronto and bordering the downtown core.

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<em>A render of The One upon completion</em>
Early last year, Toronto-based photographer, writer, and urban planning aficionado Pedro Marques uncovered a reference to Apple in a planning document for the condominium. The architecture firm behind the project is Foster + Partners, which has partnered with Apple on many retail stores and its Apple Park headquarters.

Marques has now tipped MacRumors to another reference to Apple in a brochure for an adjacent condominium project at 19 Bloor Street West.

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The brochure claims that The One will be "the future home of Apple," with the longest side of the store opening to Bloor Street's upscale shopping area Mink Mile. Excavation is underway for construction of the condominium, expected to be completed by late 2022, but its retail space may open as early as 2020.

The southwest corner of Yonge and Bloor is the former site of men's clothing store Stollery's, which closed in early 2015 after 114 years in business.

Apple has four existing stores in Toronto at Yorkdale, Sherway Gardens, Fairview, and the aforementioned Eaton Centre, but all of them are within shopping malls. The One would finally provide Toronto with a long-desired street-facing Apple Store.
 
What's their source, anyone else have confirmation?

I’ve pieced together different but overlapping info from multiple sources in a position to know their respective information.

MacRumors has been sitting on tips for a couple of weeks and I got further information in the last few days that corroborates what they had. Confirmation came when Abercrombie did indeed initiate their move.

This is real.
 

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