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Toronto 23 Toronto Street | 258.6m | 80s | Goband Investment | SvN
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AlbertC
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Shame about the EIFS hack job that's been covering this building. I'm unable to find a historical photo online showing the original facade directly. Only found this one from the reverse angle (looking northward) and getting a very slight side profile at the end of the block.
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Looking north up Toronto Street from Court Street towards the Post Office Building on Adelaide in 1915. 2010. Again but a little further bac...
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LUVIT!
Senior Member
What a gorgeous Street it WAS.
Froggy
Active Member
I was able to find this on OldTO:
1907 - "Trust And Loan Company Buildings, Toronto St., s.e. cor. Adelaide St. E. Became the National Life Building and later occupied by Consumers' Gas. "
Also, there used to be a public lavatory right out front:
Source: https://oldto.sidewalklabs.com/#DC-PICTURES-R-1456
1907 - "Trust And Loan Company Buildings, Toronto St., s.e. cor. Adelaide St. E. Became the National Life Building and later occupied by Consumers' Gas. "
Also, there used to be a public lavatory right out front:
Source: https://oldto.sidewalklabs.com/#DC-PICTURES-R-1456
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I wonder if there are any traces of the lavatory still - would they have excavated and removed it all, or does the old floor still sit under the road, the space simply filled in?
adma
Superstar
EIFS-wise, I've seen worse. Far worse. In fact, I'd deem this one of the more respectful EIFS treatments (if that's what it is) out there.
The real hack-job (and it's been that way for decades) is the de-cornicing.
Midtown Urbanist
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What kind of density should we be anticipating here?
AlexBozikovic
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Eric Arthur, in No Mean City: "This is the street that died."
AlbertC
Superstar
The Don Alfonso 1890 restaurant and Rosewater Room at 19 Toronto Street have closed, as a new owner has reportedly purchased the building for future condo development.
I wonder what's going to happen here, as the Consumers' Gas Building should be well designated as heritage.
Also curious if this is being assembled together with 25 Toronto Street that was purchased last year.
I wonder what's going to happen here, as the Consumers' Gas Building should be well designated as heritage.
Also curious if this is being assembled together with 25 Toronto Street that was purchased last year.
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Northern Light
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This is an overhead shot capturing both of the buildings referenced above. 25 is the building touching Adelaide, 19 is two buildings to the south (one building in-between)
As to heritage protection
17 and 19 Toronto Street are designated
23 and 25 are listed
All fall within a Heritage Conservation District (under appeal)
I was trying to figure out why 23 was listed, it certainly doesn't look special.
At first, I assumed it has been demolished and replaced with what we see today.
But I'm wondering if it was always a 1-storey building.
Above from Torontoist
23 is the one storey building here, certainly looking different that today, and appears to align with 25 and share some architectural traits.
As to heritage protection
17 and 19 Toronto Street are designated
23 and 25 are listed
All fall within a Heritage Conservation District (under appeal)
I was trying to figure out why 23 was listed, it certainly doesn't look special.
At first, I assumed it has been demolished and replaced with what we see today.
But I'm wondering if it was always a 1-storey building.
Above from Torontoist
23 is the one storey building here, certainly looking different that today, and appears to align with 25 and share some architectural traits.
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ushahid
Senior Member
How much height can we expect here?
junctionist
Senior Member
The Consumers Gas Building is a beautiful heritage building that dates back to before Confederation, though the Toronto Street facade is from 1876. It would be a travesty to demolish the building on account of its history and architecture, even if the facade were preserved.
Ciarlandini
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Even if they're merging with 25 Toronto Street I wouldn't expect more than 150 metres.
Towered
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Toronto Street has already been ruined, why not trash what little is left, right?
jje1000
Senior Member
I hope it's a sympathetic addition that fills in the gap between 19 and 25.
If I were in charge of planning, the only two things I would do would be to recreate the old post office facade on Adelaide in some form, and to redesign the streetscaping to reduce parking and encourage more street life.
There used to be a three-storey building at 23 named 'Tarbert House'- I wonder if it was demolished down to the first floor and then reclad? This sometimes happens to damaged buildings.
Note that the very similar first-floor stone frieze is flush with the existing building at 25, and is slightly set back from 19- elements that may have carried over into some post-war bow-windowed reconstruction in your image above. Maybe that frieze is the last bit of the building visibly remaining!
Toronto Street still has a decent amount of 'good architecture' on it to salvage. It's also fairly intimate, and far better than many other commercial streets, IMO.
If I were in charge of planning, the only two things I would do would be to recreate the old post office facade on Adelaide in some form, and to redesign the streetscaping to reduce parking and encourage more street life.
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There used to be a three-storey building at 23 named 'Tarbert House'- I wonder if it was demolished down to the first floor and then reclad? This sometimes happens to damaged buildings.
Note that the very similar first-floor stone frieze is flush with the existing building at 25, and is slightly set back from 19- elements that may have carried over into some post-war bow-windowed reconstruction in your image above. Maybe that frieze is the last bit of the building visibly remaining!
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