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2018 Ontario Provincial Election Discussion

Again, the notion of short-term electoral gains over long term pain is a recurring theme in the Liberal government. It also brings into question the health of Ontario's finances, or if there's some shiftiness going around that as well.

Is it time for a change?







http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...eneral-report-fair-hydro-plan-wynne-1.4358168




https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...atchdog-sounds-alarm-over-hydro-rate-cut.html

The report itself:
http://auditor.on.ca/en/content/specialreports/specialreports/FairHydroPlan_en.pdf

But Progressive Conservative Leader Patrick Brown accused the Liberals of using “shady accounting methods and cooking the books for politically motivated reasons.”
it's not just the PC leader who says this. It's the auditor as well who say the deficit numbers are cooked.

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...al-at-odds-over-size-of-ontarios-deficit.html

It was time for a change 10 years ago.
 
This feels like something that won't really convince people on either side.

The problem is that it'll continue drawing attention to the trial and distracting from their platform.
 
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It's a risky strategy but I think it's the right one. Left unchecked, Brown would continue defaming Wynne, suggesting that she's under investigation. By suing him for defamation, yes, Wynne is propagating and even escalating the attention on this but she's at least defending herself.
 
Well frankly its rather easy to spin that Wynee is hiding behind a lawyer and let the people decide if she is crooked or not.

Politicians need to up the ante really
 
The problem I think is that people see the whole hospital issue as a Liberal problem (flat-lining spending for a while).

Election spending starting:

Working Families coalition back to haunt Tories with new advertising blitz
Bankrolled by unions, Working Families helped swing the 2003, 2007, 2011 and 2014 Ontario elections to the Liberals with attack ads against the Conservatives.

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...-haunt-tories-with-new-advertising-blitz.html
 
Interesting reasoning:

The Sudbury byelection bribery trial of two Ontario Liberals ended suddenly Tuesday afternoon when the judge ruled there wasn't enough evidence to continue.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/sudbury-byelection-bribery-trial-day-12-1.4367185?cmp=rss

The decision, at the defence’s request, meant Sorbara’s and Lougheed’s lawyers didn’t have to present defences beyond cross-examining the prosecution witnesses. The judge heard the Crown’s case, took a couple of weeks to think about it, and decided there was nothing more worth considering in it. No reasonable person would convict the pair based on the prosecution Borenstein had heard.
The acquittals, to be clear, do not mean that none of these things happened. They did. Sorbara is on tape offering Olivier a job in Thibeault’s eventual constituency office, or other party positions he might be interested in. It’s just not against the law.
http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...d-in-sudbury-bribery-trial-but-damage-is-done

I wonder if the prosecution will appeal this decision.
 
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Has anyone else seen the ad attacking Patrick Brown? It is aimed at women and attack his anti-abortion and anti-gay votes as an MP.
 
He claims he is a changed man and that those votes didn’t have the meaning to restrict women’s rights. He also has started to attend gay parades. Maybe he has had a change of heart.

I think what’s likely is that his convictions remain the same but he is becoming pragmatic like Harper was to win votes. He can’t win on a social-con platform. If he can stay on message and have a platform with lots of goodies (ie tax cuts) he will win.

Notwithstanding the favourable ruling for the Liberals this will he a change election.
 
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/let...t-can-and-should-help-end-college-strike.html

Your letters: Kathleen Wynne’s Liberal government can and should help end college strike
Fri., Oct. 27, 2017

Minister ‘very troubled’ by lack of talks between colleges, union, Oct. 25

Deb Matthews presents an odd picture as the cabinet minister responsible for Ontario’s community colleges: a lame duck shedding crocodile tears.

She says she’s “very troubled” by the students caught in the strike, but fails to exercise her proper authority to send the college management team back to the bargaining table.

Don Sinclair, head of the management team, is only interested in blaming the union. His position seems to be that the whole problem could be solved right away if the union would simply agree with him.

Meanwhile, Matthews and Premier Kathleen Wynne, while professing concern for minimum-wage and part-time workers, have done nothing to stop the long-standing abuse of part-time workers in the colleges. This trend is unjust to the part-time teachers and corrodes the quality of education offered by colleges.

If the Ontario government really cared about the students, it would order the management team back to the bargaining table and provide adequate funding. In the meantime, spare us the phoney tears.

Frank Green, London, Ont.

I am writing to voice my full support for the striking college professors. I am in total agreement that their current employment situation cannot be allowed to stand.

These highly educated, dedicated professionals have earned better than to be treated as “temp” employees. They should not be viewed as disposable workers while their employers benefit from their specialized knowledge on the cheap. They deserve and have earned the right to full-time jobs with the accompanying benefits.

The shameful treatment of these teachers by the college employers council, and by extension the college administrators and the provincial Liberal government, must cease. It’s time for the Wynne government to stop undermining the education of our students.

Marc Moreau, Kingston, Ont.
 
Less electricity use but higher bills for Ontarians

Ontario households are using less electricity but will still see their monthly bills rise steadily over the next decade to $186 a month or $2,232 a year.

According to the Ontario Long-Term Energy Plan released Thursday, the lowest electricity bills – less even than this year’s bills – will be in 2018, an election year, when the average residential monthly bill is projected to be $123.

After that, prices will rise by about 2-3% a year until 2022, when the annual increases will be in the 7-8% range.

PC MPP Todd Smith said the Liberals are borrowing billions of dollars to keep electricity bills artificially low during an election period.

“We know that the cost of electricity is going to spike after the next election and this document shows that,” Smith said. “They’re not doing anything to actually take costs out of the system.”

NDP MPP Peter Tabuns said the report, titled ‘Delivering Fairness and Choice,’ is more politics than plan.

“This is written for the election – this is not a planning document,” he said.
As Thibeault noted, previous plans projected higher electricity costs and consumption than is now expected.
http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/ontario-hydro-bills-to-jump-over-next-decade

The NDP's prior platform for cutting electricity- now to see what the Conservatives propose to deal with this issue.

http://www.ontariondp.ca/sites/default/files/final_ndp_hydro_announcement.pdf
 

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