2018 Ontario Provincial Election Discussion

[BurlOak]

Typical. Why answer a question when the question hasn't been run by your handlers (because real leaders need handlers) and you can't think of an answer that will be satisfactory to everyone without it being a complete lie or incoherent with your past and actual positions?

Man, that's Canadian politics! Good stuff, all around.

I'm beginning to think that @steveintoronto doesn't have the right to vote on purpose. Probably looked around and said, "Whoah, what's the point?"

I do get a sense that NDP vote is real. You can hear it in people who say that the PC's should have had a different leader. They are really saying that they know that the PC's will do a better job running the province than the NDP. They are just justifying in their own mind why it is not their fault for voting for an incompetent party. When things go bad with the NDP, of course it won't be the fault of anyone who voted NDP.

 

[SunriseChampion]

I do get a sense that NDP vote is real. You can hear it in people who say that the PC's should have had a different leader. They are really saying that they know that the PC's will do a better job running the province than the NDP. They are just justifying in their own mind why it is not their fault for voting for an incompetent party. When things go bad with the NDP, of course it won't be the fault of anyone who voted NDP.

To be fair, a party that elects a Ford its leader is also incompetent, bud.

 

[christiesplits]

Then it’s time to start telling us who’s in the NDP planned cabinet. Who’s finance, health, education, infrastructure, etc?

Gilles Bisson, MPP since the Rae years, is probably Finance. Probably a big portfolio for Peter Tabuns like Health or Education. Catherine Fife, Marit Stiles and Jagmeet Singh’s brother likely get cabinet roles.

 

[SunriseChampion]

Creationists and socialists within a hair’s breath of government.

What if they joined forces?

I kind of want to write a comic about the time the creationists and the socialists joined forces to rule the world/destroy my mind/imprison the people who make their rule possible/or whatever.

 

[TransitBart]

What if they joined forces?

I kind of want to write a comic about the time the creationists and the socialists joined forces to rule the world/destroy my mind/imprison the people who make their rule possible/or whatever.

It’s a tragedy. Not a comedy. *weep*

 

[SunriseChampion]

It’s a tragedy. Not a comedy. *weep*

Comics can be tragedies, comedies, lame, boring, anything.

In all seriousness though, it is quite the joke. I mean tragedy! Damn, almost did it again.

I'm almost completely ignoring this election. Since I was about 17 I was a politics junkie. Went to university in Ottawa to study poli sci. Man, after a decade of following politics too closely and with this current crop of front runners......you couldn't pay me to care.
My vote doesn't count anyway.

I KNOW neither Ford, Wynne, or Horwath speak for or represent my interests or views so I don't have to give them a chance by listening to every new political nonsense gibberish that comes out of their mouths.

I don't need my money to buy me nice things. I already do that myself.

Ok, bad analogy.....in true millennial fashion, I spend almost all my money on "experiential things".

Right. And none of the top three are offering to bribe me with my own money by offering me wicked experiences.

So they can do them and I shall do me....and let me tell you, me is waaaaaay more real.

 

[adma]

Hilariously, Hazel McCallion has endprsed both Finance Minister Charles Sousa's re-election and Doug Ford as premier in order to clean up the fiscal mess of the Liberals!

Remember: she owes Rob Ford her life.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20..._mccallion_and_helps_her_land_a_big_fish.html

 

[adma]

Passing her signs last night, I was wondering whether the Tories were hoping her blondeness and surname might earn a "mistaken identity" vote (Hogarth = Horwath, etc)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaxrgKMV4AAtIGn.jpg

 

[BurlOak]

To be fair, a party that elects a Ford its leader is also incompetent, bud.

Do you honestly think the Province will do better under an NDP government than a PC one?

 

[TransitBart]

Hence the expression, “none of the above”.

 

[steveintoronto]

https://pressprogress.ca/doug-ford-...eationism-in-schools-sounds-like-a-good-idea/

One of Doug's close allies.

I thought it was "Cretinism" first glance, and then wondered:
"What's the problem? Doug's in his own doo-doo being loved"

I'm beginning to think that @steveintoronto doesn't have the right to vote on purpose.

I used to have the vote here, but lost it when Commonwealth citizens were no-longer granted it with Permanent Residence status. Fair enough, if they didn't make the application forms so incredibly impossible to fill out (any slight error can be a criminal offence), I would long ago have applied, but I have to question what advantage I would garner from applying.

It's a bit like formal marriage, you have almost all the protections of a state ordained marriage by living common law....without the baggage. On the up side, I don't get called for jury duty. MI5 might come looking for me though, Nigel's having a few problems and someone's messed with the tea again...

Last Cdn I voted for was Joe Clark. I've since used my UK status to vote for Tony Blair. I got the first one of those two right...

 

[SunriseChampion]

Do you honestly think the Province will do better under an NDP government than a PC one?

I didn't say that.

....but, sure, I'll answer your question with the same analogy I've used in this thread at least three times before:

Two sides of the same shite coin.

Or, to put it more simply: no.

Then again, that would be my answer to the inverse of your question.

 

[44 North]

I do get a sense that NDP vote is real. You can hear it in people who say that the PC's should have had a different leader. They are really saying that they know that the PC's will do a better job running the province than the NDP. They are just justifying in their own mind why it is not their fault for voting for an incompetent party. When things go bad with the NDP, of course it won't be the fault of anyone who voted NDP.

But they did have a different leader. It wasn't a hypothetical, he was there, with a costed platform, and huge support. The current dip in PC support and obvious osmotic gravitation toward NDP I think is a direct result of people *not* being able to safely say the 'PCs will do a better job'. For starters they don't have a costed platform two weeks before an election, which should furrow an eyebrow or two. Particularly for those who want to deal with our fiscal situation. But then there's Doug, who in my eyes doesn't have leadership qualities and is not well-spoken. He's supposed to be a businessman but I wouldn't buy what he's selling. Heck, Rob was a better speaker/leader/salesman.

 

[SunriseChampion]

... but I have to question what advantage I would garner from applying.

So I wasn't completely wrong.

Last Cdn I voted for was Joe Clark. I've since used my UK status to vote for Tony Blair. I got the first one of those two right...

hahahaaaaaa......yeah.

I vaguely remember Clark as MP, sure as hell don't remember him as PM, but I reckon he was a decent public figure. I mean, he sure as hell would make this trio look even worse than they manage on their own.

 

[SunriseChampion]

For starters they don't have a costed platform two weeks before an election...

Pffft, whatever man....."trust me".