2018 Municipal Election: Toronto Council Races

[zang]

A stunning ruling that puts emotions above the law.

Said with zero awareness of a situation where Ford arbitrarily attacked the only cities that turned on his brother and refused to elect him mayor.

 

[Richard White]

Here's to hoping the LG refuses to sign off on Bill 5 or threatens to call a new election.

Doug Ford thinks there will be an election in FOUR years.. if the LG felt the need she could on her own authority dismiss parliament and call an election. She is sworn to uphold the rule of law, the constitution etc. If she really wanted to she could threaten to oust ford or call an election if he does not back down.

Ford really needs to read a book on how government works because he fails to realise the LG can turf him or the bill and there is nothing he can do.

 

[innsertnamehere]

I doubt the LG will pull that. LG stepping in would be even more unprecedented than Ford evoking the notwithstanding clause. The notwithstanding clause is a clause within the constitution - Ford has a constitutional right to invoke it.

What the LG is for is if Ford starts to pull stuff that is very obviously unconstitutional like, say, eliminating elections.

 

[Irishmonk]

Because, IMO, downtowners demand more from their local government, whilst suburbanites just want basic services and otherwise be left alone.

Oh please! Scarborough is demanding a 3.5 billion (and counting) subway to its favorite shopping mall, even though current demand guarantees it will operate at a net loss. Meanwhile, downtowners haven't gotten a sniff of new rapid transit for over 50 years despite crush load conditions on Line 1.

 

[Richard White]

I doubt the LG will pull that. LG stepping in would be even more unprecedented than Ford evoking the notwithstanding clause.

Yes but at the same time.. if there is no other option and he starts going off on a tangent I can see it happening.

 

[Miscreant]

Disgusting.

That entire press conference was one of the lowest points of Canadian politics I've seen in my lifetime.

He is an unmitigated fool, sucking and blowing at the same time. Unbelievable.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Disgusting.
That entire press conference was one of the lowest points of Canadian politics I've seen in my lifetime.
He is an unmitigated fool, sucking and blowing at the same time. Unbelievable.

Not the slightest bit surprised. He is someone who doesn't know how to climbdown.

AoD

 

[Adjei]

So will he use this clause every time he loses a judgement ?

 

[Northern Light]

The Premier has gone Full-Trump

In 36 years, no government of Ontario has ever invoked the notwithstanding clause.

No matter what one would feel about his original law, or the court decision, to use the NWC for such a matter is absurd and offensive.

It also doesn't strike me as good politics.

I am flabbergast that he got this past cabinet.


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On a different note, he can't invoke this second........

Which means the judge's decision is law, for now.

Assuming the clerk follows the law, and abandons the 25-ward model; the ever more scrambled egg would need to be addressed yet again, perhaps at the end of next week, depending
on timing to recall the legislature and presumably invoke closure to push the bill through quickly.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

So will he use this clause every time he loses a judgement ?

Given his personality, I wouldn't be surprised.

AoD

 

[JGHali]

I doubt the LG will pull that. LG stepping in would be even more unprecedented than Ford evoking the notwithstanding clause. The notwithstanding clause is a clause within the constitution - Ford has a constitutional right to invoke it.

What the LG is for is if Ford starts to pull stuff that is very obviously unconstitutional like, say, eliminating elections.

The powers of disallowance and reservation are similarly constitutional. It would not even require legislation to put an end to Doug Ford's attempt to establish himself as dictator.

 

[innsertnamehere]

The powers of disallowance and reservation are similarly constitutional. It would not even require legislation to put an end to Doug Ford's attempt to establish himself as dictator.

yes it is - but it is generally understood in parliamentary convention that the LG is to be a figurehead only. She may have that constitutional power, but convention generally says that it is to be used in only the most extreme of situations. A premier invoking the notwithstanding clause completely legally isn't the sort of thing the LG is supposed to prevent.

 

[syn]

I can see Ford doing this whenever he doesn't get his way.

What do people expect? He thinks he's the ruler of the province. Democracy is for libtard elites!

Hopefully the other parties get their act together in the next four years. 8 years of Ford would seriously damage the province.

 

[syn]

yes it is - but it is generally understood in parliamentary convention that the LG is to be a figurehead only. She may have that constitutional power, but convention generally says that it is to be used in only the most extreme of situations. A premier invoking the notwithstanding clause completely legally isn't the sort of thing the LG is supposed to prevent.

Very true. However, the premier using the notwithstanding clause to simply get his way isn't the sort of thing that's supposed to happen either.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

yes it is - but it is generally understood in parliamentary convention that the LG is to be a figurehead only. She may have that constitutional power, but convention generally says that it is to be used in only the most extreme of situations. A premier invoking the notwithstanding clause completely legally isn't the sort of thing the LG is supposed to prevent.

Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

AoD