Even Mainstreet. Wow indeed.
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2018 Ontario Provincial Election Discussion
- Thread starter MetroMan
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steveintoronto
Superstar
Their AI software analysis projects....wait for it...Libs getting just one seat! Not even official party status. And it won't be Wynne either.
But projections show that the NDP has to win ridings from the Cons, not the Libs, to win.
pman
Senior Member
There were good reasons why Tory and Hudak weren’t good enough. In Tory’s case it was funding for religious schools, while for Hudak it was mass layoffs of civil servants. In both cases, the PC’s had a leader grossly out of step with the desires of a majority of Ontarians. The fault was with the party, not the electorate, and at this point it looks like the polarizing leadership choice they made with Ford will continue their well-established tradition of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Videodrome
Senior Member
My dad is one of the 24% who vote PC regardless, but he still thinks that they messed up yet another winnable election. I have no issue voting NDP now that they have momentum.
steveintoronto
Superstar
EDITORIAL
Globe editorial: Doug Ford can’t ignore allegation he tried to sell bogus party memberships
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...ford-cant-ignore-allegation-he-tried-to-sell/
Globe editorial: Doug Ford can’t ignore allegation he tried to sell bogus party memberships
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opi...ford-cant-ignore-allegation-he-tried-to-sell/
adma
Superstar
Provincially, it may be argued that the OLP played that role at least into the Peterson era. The Big Blue Machine PCs were the "cosmopolitans".
King of Kensington
Senior Member
Tomorrow's Forum looks like it's going to have some very interesting numbers.
steveintoronto
Superstar
MetroMan
Senior Member
I’m having a hard time deciding whether I want Ford to lose his riding and be humiliated out of running for any public office again or having him win his seat and kept out of this
There’s no way around it. Doug Ford will be buried in scandals (and I’m hearing there are more) for the rest of the campaign.
The PCs got what they deserved. I hope that he’s obliterated and loses his own seat. With this kind of negative press, he couldn’t even run for Mayor if he wanted to. This 2 week mark is the sweet spot. Enough time to continue dropping and not enough time to recover if the scandals somehow quieted down.
There’s no way around it. Doug Ford will be buried in scandals (and I’m hearing there are more) for the rest of the campaign.
The PCs got what they deserved. I hope that he’s obliterated and loses his own seat. With this kind of negative press, he couldn’t even run for Mayor if he wanted to. This 2 week mark is the sweet spot. Enough time to continue dropping and not enough time to recover if the scandals somehow quieted down.
MetroMan
Senior Member
That’s doable because many who have sided with the PCs did so because they were tired of a Liberal government and wanted change.
Now that Horwath’s profile has skyrocketed, she’s a suitable change candidate and not a scary one like Ford. I think the PCs can lose another 5-10% with Ford mired in scandals and on the defensive for the final 2 weeks.
Voters are getting a taste of the chaos Toronto had to go through with his brother and have a chance to turn back and support the other Not Wynne candidate.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Ford has no seat, you can’t lose what you don’t have. We can certainly hope that Shafiq Qaadri keeps his riding - the only Liberal I’ll be rooting for.
SunriseChampion
Senior Member
This shit again. "Looks like they might win, better vote for them."
I'm not singling you out, you're by far not the only one who casts votes based on perceived winnability.
Putin gets half his votes like this, you know. (I'm not even having a laugh here, it's true).
Northern Light
Superstar
Forum Poll Out:
NDP 47
PC 33
Lib 14
Grn 4
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/25/ndp-surges-ahead-in-poll.html
Wow, can't say I saw that coming. I'm certainly in the 'Not Ford' camp. But the NDP has never even dreamed of a number like that.
Can they hold it?
NDP 47
PC 33
Lib 14
Grn 4
https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2018/05/25/ndp-surges-ahead-in-poll.html
Wow, can't say I saw that coming. I'm certainly in the 'Not Ford' camp. But the NDP has never even dreamed of a number like that.
Can they hold it?
sixrings
Senior Member
Im strategic voting as well. I know you were trying to get us to join your don't vote campaign but I think its fair to vote strategically for other people. Im in Mike Colles area and would tend to vote for him. On the other hand if its close and I can give even more to the NDP I have no problem doing that. I think going from Liberal to NDP or vice versa is no where near as drastic as going from red/orange to blue. In principle the Orange and Red have plenty in common. So voting for them doesn't mean that you are changing your ideology to cast a winning vote.
adma
Superstar
Or the NDP up the middle, as some projectionists are calling it.
Hey; back in mid-March, after DoFo became leader, I was calling Etobicoke North "NDP-targetable"...