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If a Glencairn/Blythwood station is added on the Yonge line, I don't foresee the kind of development we see at North York City Centre happening there. High rises would not be approved there. Instead, it will be the domain of midrise condo developers.

If constructed, it would probably be the lowest ridership station on the Yonge line, the LCBO at Summerhill would probably generate more ridership than a Blythwood station. All the while increasing commute times for anyone north of Blythwood (ie, most Yonge riders) by a few minutes.


IMHO, Summerhill and Rosedale station should have been built originally as just one station.

Those relatively few people who live near Glencarin/Blythwood and work downtown are better off going north to Lawrence station to catch the southbound subway train. Because if they go south to Eglinton to catch the southbound train during AM peak time, they'll be waiting on the southbound platform as countless packed southbound train go by! And this is the least of the problem right now!

Interestingly, you folks are only talking about current condition on Yonge subway line,... Guess what,... There's a double whammy tsunami on the horizon!

Eglinton Crosstown line should be completed in 2020. A lot of people who currently use the east-west Bloor-Danforth line will be switching to the new Eglinton Crosstown and be using that already packed southbound platform at Eglinton going downtown in AM peak time. Thus instead of navigating through Bloor-Yonge interchange station, these folks will be going through Eglinton-Yonge interchange station,... which is already packed now! They should really be discussing adding side platforms at Eglinton station (a la Bloor-Yonge discussion before with 2 side platform and centre platform so trains could do all door boarding and exit simultaneously). (A previous article showed a cut and cover at Eglinton for the Yonge line extention north, part of it became the open plaza space where RIO-CAN is now building at north-west corner of Yonge&Eglinton,... sadly, nobody had the foresight to relocate Eglinton station slightly north to that point where new stations platforms could have been built with sides and centre platforms and it would have been under Eglinton Avenue so Eglinton Crosstown could have intersected it in the middle instead of a less functional odd T-interchange like Bloor-Yonge)

If you're thinking, don't worry, Yonge Automatic Train Control will be ready by 2017 and allow about 35-40% more capacity,... Come on, when has the TTC ever delivered what's promised on time as promised???? Right now, they're talking Yonge ATC being delayed until 2021. Anyways,... You better pray that Yonge ATC gets here before Eglinton Crosstown is completed.

But what about Yonge line relief from mayor John Tory's SmartTrack plan,... it'll soon be 2015 and SmartTrack will take 7 years (ie 2022) IF it gets complete cooperation from all levels of governments and the city is allowed to use existing track infrastructure that doesn't even belong to them!

The other tsunami is all the high density development like this one at 1 Eglinton East,... 68 storey,.... that's going to be close to 1,000 units! About 2,000 people if all condo, more if office component,... 1,000 units is probably enough to fill both sides of a 5km residential street,... and it's built vertically at one point. Each tower represent a street full of people at one point instead of being spread over a much larger area. Multiply that by all the development that's currently going on in Yonge-Eglinton area and add in those that we'll see in the near future,.... especially along Eglinton Crosstown - hey, city isn't building Eglinton Crosstown to service the existing low density neighbourhoods,... city is building it so they can increase density along Eglinton so they can collect more property tax revenue.

High density development brings in a lot more people,... but city does a lousy job of building any infrastructure to handle all those extra people,... the city can't even handle all the people on the Yonge line now!

Bottomline,... if you work downtown, move to downtown,.... you can't rely on transit or anything from any level of government in this town.
 
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Eglinton Crosstown line should be completed in 2020. A lot of people who currently use the east-west Bloor-Danforth line will be switching to the new Eglinton Crosstown and be using that already packed southbound platform at Eglinton going downtown in AM peak time. Thus instead of navigating through Bloor-Yonge interchange station, these folks will be going through Eglinton-Yonge interchange station,... which is already packed now!

It can also be argued that many of the existing riders coming from east of Yonge will transfer at Eglinton West station instead of Eglinton & Yonge, since they won't have to transfer to another bus anymore in order to access the Spadina line. But nevertheless you're probably right that the existing situation will only get worse.
 
Yes, we were discussing recently in the Scarborough thread about how the Crosstown is a missed opportunity to rebuild Yonge-Eglinton station as a Spanish Solution station with a center and 2 side platforms.

Yonge-Eglinton will become a bottleneck like Yonge-Bloor except that the central platform on Eglinton is significantly smaller than the platforms on Bloor. At least some riders heading eastbound on Eglinton will be looking to transfer onto the Spadina line instead of the Yonge line as salsa said.

It is not just transit infrastructure the city is falling behind in. The nearby schools in the area are already near capacity and we are adding thousands of residents with no plans for where their kids will go to school. I also believe the sewage infrastructure here isn't meant to handle this proposed density, though I might be wrong on that one.
 
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Blame our collectively shitty politicians. My sister works downtown and takes the Yonge line and hates it.

Our politicians rather have dozens of meetings talking about what they might do then actually doing anything. They don't take transit and as long as they get their 100k+ a year they really don't care about it. We know what we need in this city, they should be getting it done.


You're right, it's fully the politicians' fault, not partly the fault of the electorate who keep telling them to not to raise taxes to pay for new transit.
 
Yes, we were discussing recently in the Scarborough thread about how the Crosstown is a missed opportunity to rebuild Yonge-Eglinton station as a Spanish Solution station with a center and 2 side platforms.

Yonge-Eglinton will become a bottleneck like Yonge-Bloor except that the central platform on Eglinton is significantly smaller than the platforms on Bloor. At least some riders heading eastbound on Eglinton will be looking to transfer onto the Spadina line instead of the Yonge line as salsa said.

It is not just transit infrastructure the city is falling behind in. The nearby schools in the area are already near capacity and we are adding thousands of residents with no plans for where their kids will go to school. I also believe the sewage infrastructure here isn't meant to handle this proposed density, though I might be wrong on that one.


You really have to wonder,... do they only have idiots working at the TTC?

The design of Eglinton WEST station isn't great either, the Eglinton Crosstown will be directly below Eglinton Avenue but Eglinton station on Spadina line is north of Eglinton Avenue,... so the interchange station is worst than that T-shape interchange at Bloor-Yonge interchange station.

Midtown has a number of very good schools especially high schools,... and that'll attract a lot of families into the new condos. And that's the same problem we have in North York Centre,.... local school capacity can't handle all the new residents. Solution in North York Centre is that only the kids from the single residential houses are basically guranteed a spot in the local schools (doesn't matter if they just moved in yesterday),... kids from high density condos are generally given lower priority and are only allowed into local school is there's space, otherwise, they're bused out to a school outside of the area - where there's capacity. That'll likely be the same solution in midtown.

And it really becomes a game where the city is really downloading their responsibility for building infrastructures onto the developer via Section 37. And as a resident, you have to fight for more usable section 37 benefits for your community,... parks, open space, schools rebuilds, road improvements, etc,...
 
The new subway map has appeared on the BD line. Note that the legend for Line 1 says "Yonge-University Line".

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You have no taste for beautiful architecture, ksun. Lawrence West is now, undoubtedly, one of the top 5 best designed metro stations in the world. And it's all thanks to the care and craftsmanship put into the work. I would attempt explain to you why this station is so beautiful, but I don't think I should waste my energy on someone as hopeless as you. Good riddance.

;)

And how many metro stations have you seen? Well designed, maybe, but it's not exactly that hard to design a station with low usage (by world standard). Such a hyperbole to say it's the top five in the world. TTC does not have anything that's top 20 in the world.
 
And how many metro stations have you seen? Well designed, maybe, but it's not exactly that hard to design a station with low usage (by world standard). Such a hyperbole to say it's the top five in the world. TTC does not have anything that's top 20 in the world.
Haha you totally missed the sarcasm in his post.
 
really?
It looks like a men's room for me.
8 year? Shouldn't have taken more than 8 months. A massive train station gets built in less than 8 years.
Not a single TTC elevator has been built in 8 months, let alone one as complex as Lawrence West.

The elevators are built by private contractors, who have no reason not to build them as quickly and cheaply as possible.

If you really believe it should be built in 8 months, then you want them to be built at much greater expense to be built so quickly. Why do you want to waste are money so much?

In reality, I believe your simply trolling us. Stop trolling please.
 

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