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TTC: Other Items (catch all)
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junctionist
Senior Member
You should choose the least awkward seat available. But if that front-facing bench were unavailable, the campaigners would like you to sit like the guy on the right. But the guy in the middle actually looks somewhat comfortable. We can't be jerks, but we can't be uncomfortable either. Men should also keep their crotch cool for the sake of fertility. That requires a good amount of space between your legs when sitting down.
Electrify
Senior Member
Unless you've got a bad case of hemroids, it is possible to sit comfortably while not spreading out like a woman giving birth.
I think social boundaries might play a part as well. Perhaps he simply doesn't mind contact with strangers and fellow passengers? Personally I am not quite as a forward and will close in to make space.
Of course, the guy could just be an asshole.
I think social boundaries might play a part as well. Perhaps he simply doesn't mind contact with strangers and fellow passengers? Personally I am not quite as a forward and will close in to make space.
Of course, the guy could just be an asshole.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
Who proposed a subway station at Blythwood? Certainly not the TTC or city. It'll never happen - it can't be done.
hawc
Senior Member
They do have a lovely emergency exit there though.
pw20
Active Member
There was meant to be a mid block station at glencairn. It was scraped when the line was built. http://transit.toronto.on.ca/subway/5105.shtml
WislaHD
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Johnny Au
Senior Member
In the updated TTC bylaw, it states that no passenger can put his/her feet on the seats. Apparently, those who board TTC vehicles using child fares (as well as luggage and rolling backpacks) seem to be an exception. Likewise, the bylaw also prohibits the use of profanity in TTC vehicles, yet is completely unenforceable (though the bylaw probably targets potty mouths).
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I've seen a streetcar driver make someone leave because of language
Jonny5
Senior Member
The guy on the right must be used to lots of unwanted physical contact from other men due to his job.
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sunnyraytoronto
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In the process of designing a new subway line or extention, they discuss potential stops such as they did with Yonge extention north of Eglinton to Finch and most of these midpoint stops (Glencarin, Yonge Blvd - Glen Echo, Empress - North York Centre) never see the light of day again since the forcast for low ridership and lack of intersecting arterial road. These midway stops generally don't go beyond simple talk, there's usually never any planning, design or engineering work on these stations,... except,.... and as you can see from that article,... "This extension to the North Yonge extension would feature one station at Finch Avenue, despite lobbying from North York that a second station be constructed at Park Home Avenue (the Empress station referred to before, and the site of the proposed North York Civic Centre). Although a level section was designed into the line at this point, where a station could be added, the TTC would refuse the request to build this station until the mid 1980s, when construction began on North York Centre station." In addition, at that point the tunnel was also built so that subway platforms could be placed there later on. When North York City Centre (2 office towers, hotel, library, retail-office podium, etc,..) got built, North York City Centre station (aka at Empress / ParkHome) got built at developer's cost.
North York Centre subway station is the busiest subway station in Toronto without a direct bus or streetcar connection; ridership is based only on local walk-in from the area offices and condo towers. This area have changed greatly from the 1960s when the Yonge subway extention was proposed to mid-1980s (when North York Centre subway station was added) when area was already undergoing urban intensification being championed by Mel Lastman. (Sadly, the most famous politician from Yonge-Blythwood/Glencarin and Yonge-YongeBlvd/GlenEcho area was flip-flopping Karen Stintz who's political career was always guided by her own self interest at the cost of her local constituents.)
Also, if you compare the built-form of Yonge-Blythwood/Glencarin and Yonge-YongeBlvd/GlenEcho area from 1960s when these midpoint subway stops were discussed to today,... 99% of the buildings and houses that were there in 1960s are still there today! Same density, same everything,... only major change at these areas are new SportingLife store,... and GlenEcho North Toronto stop became a Loblaws,... oh, and more front lawns paved over for car parking spaces! So this is probably one of the few times the TTC did something right,... by not putting subway station or provision for one at these locations.
Besides North York Centre (Empress/ParkHome) Willowdale Avenue on the Sheppard Stubway line is the only other potential station that can be added to an existing subway line that I can think of off the top of my head. (Anyone know of any other?) It was considered during planning for Sheppard Stubway line but rejected due to some community opposition, low ridership prediction and shoe-string budget due to Mike Harris cuts. But provisions where built on the Sheppard Stubway line at Willowdale Avenue to allow for a future subway station.
The problem with Blythwood/Glencarin proposal on Yonge line is no provision was ever made for a station there,... the stretch of subway track there is NOT level. A subway station platform needs about 500 feet of level subway track otherwise the subway could accidentally roll when loading or unloading passengers. In addition, the tunnel support system must allow subway platforms to be added.
Is it possible to still add a subway station at Blythwood/Glencarin on the Yonge line? Anything is possible if you have a bottomless pit full of money! They would need to rebuild that tunnel to level both tracks and cut and cover requiring closing down Yonge Street road traffic along with shutting down that stretch of the Yonge Subway line for the duration of construction (how long did Union Station take to add just 1 platform without any track work?). Sure, this all makes sense so a handfull of people can cut a few minute from their walk to the closest subway station. There are many people in Toronto who would kill to get a 10 minute walk from their house to a subway station.
Its best to have these folks walk to Eglinton Station,... there'll be nice new buildings at 3 of the 4 corners,... and if they ever figure out what to do with the old Eglinton bus terminal, it'll be new towers at all 4 corners! The challenge is desiging good pedestrian flow from street level to subway,... sounds simple but city planning and TTC isn't known for getting these simple things done right.
Big Daddy
Senior Member
Who cares about additional stops? We need additional lines!
I have close friends who are so fed up with the congestion on the Yonge line and are considering moving to another city to get away from it.
My own daughter, who now works downtown, refuses to use the Yonge line anymore because it's so over crowded in the rush hours and there is no relief in sight - New York, which already has a great transit system downtown - is still building subways (two lines under construction right now) and we can't get our collective sh*t together enough to add an additional line to make our ONE downtown line functional again. Instead we extend the existing lines so we can add even more people onto already over capacity Yonge Spadina lines and argue about adding more stations.
We will choke on our own success at some point and its not that far away. there is no plan in the works for a relief line (other than Tory's GO train option) and it takes ten years to build once they agree on which line to build.
I have close friends who are so fed up with the congestion on the Yonge line and are considering moving to another city to get away from it.
My own daughter, who now works downtown, refuses to use the Yonge line anymore because it's so over crowded in the rush hours and there is no relief in sight - New York, which already has a great transit system downtown - is still building subways (two lines under construction right now) and we can't get our collective sh*t together enough to add an additional line to make our ONE downtown line functional again. Instead we extend the existing lines so we can add even more people onto already over capacity Yonge Spadina lines and argue about adding more stations.
We will choke on our own success at some point and its not that far away. there is no plan in the works for a relief line (other than Tory's GO train option) and it takes ten years to build once they agree on which line to build.
renvel
Active Member
Willowdale Station
Right on!
The Willowdale Station on the Sheppard line is the way to go.
Right on!
The Willowdale Station on the Sheppard line is the way to go.
WislaHD
Superstar
If a Glencairn/Blythwood station is added on the Yonge line, I don't foresee the kind of development we see at North York City Centre happening there. High rises would not be approved there. Instead, it will be the domain of midrise condo developers.
If constructed, it would probably be the lowest ridership station on the Yonge line, the LCBO at Summerhill would probably generate more ridership than a Blythwood station. All the while increasing commute times for anyone north of Blythwood (ie, most Yonge riders) by a few minutes.
If constructed, it would probably be the lowest ridership station on the Yonge line, the LCBO at Summerhill would probably generate more ridership than a Blythwood station. All the while increasing commute times for anyone north of Blythwood (ie, most Yonge riders) by a few minutes.
kris
Senior Member
Blame our collectively shitty politicians. My sister works downtown and takes the Yonge line and hates it.
Our politicians rather have dozens of meetings talking about what they might do then actually doing anything. They don't take transit and as long as they get their 100k+ a year they really don't care about it. We know what we need in this city, they should be getting it done.