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TJ O'Pootertoot said:
More to the point, anyone who thinks a NEW ballpark would have any less of this is really out to lunch. When they do renovations and build new stadiums, yes, there is a trickle-down across the stadium as facilities are improved but the reason for it is to improve the revenue, and doing that mostly through improved premium options.

Anyway, I'm also not a fan of the behind-the-plate box thing. Shapiro's old stomping grounds, Cleveland, has something similar (though not directly behind the plate, oddly): I'm sure it's cool to sit there but it looks awful on TV, IMHO.
Compare that to Dodgers Stadium where they actually got rid of part of the backstop wall, so the people in the front row are RIGHT in the front row (and not, say, hiding and milling about in shadowy bunkers). I know it's about the money but you still want it to look good on TV, don't you?
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The Dogers set up is way better.
 
egotrippin said:
I only follow baseball casually, so I haven't really noticed those sunken boxes before, but is there a benefit to that viewpoint? Seems like it would feel very strange and give you a worse view of what's going on. Curious as to the point or benefit.
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I think the main selling feature here would be to be "right in the action".

Otherwise, anyone sitting in the sunken areas would have to strain their necks following any fly ball hit throughout the game.
 
i sat in the action once and it was incredible being right on turf level. it was far greater than row 1 seats i sat at elsewhere. it was super impressive hearing the pitch hit the catchers mitt, or the crack of the bat, or saying a couple of words back and forth with the player on the on-deck circle. i don't know how that changes or better or worse when it's sunken though. i guess i'll try to snag a pair of in-the-action seats this year if they're going away as i'll probably never have access to a premium box there. You can get them for a reasonable (not that reasonable, but all things considering) price before the summer months on like a monday night vs the rays or someone. that's what i did last time.
 
G.L.17 said:
I think the main selling feature here would be to be "right in the action".

Otherwise, anyone sitting in the sunken areas would have to strain their necks following any fly ball hit throughout the game.
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Like owning a massive SUV, it's less about the practicality than ability to show off a status symbol.
Given that most fans watch the game on TV, I don't know why you'd do something that looks like crap the whole time but then I don't work in an MLB front office so what do I know?

In Cleveland, for example, those sunken dugouts are off to either side of home and this is how the backstop looks on TV.
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Literally, no fans in view.
Compare that to Rogers Centre.
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And don't get me wrong - Cleveland is a nice stadium but ugly is ugly. You want to see other human beings reacting and such, right?

(And before they did the In the Action seats at SkyDome there was a camera bay in that little alcove where the attendants prep the food for the lucky ticketholders up there. It looked ugly too.
Not the ideal angle but here is how it looked back in 1993...
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UrbanOzz said:
i sat in the action once and it was incredible being right on turf level. it was far greater than row 1 seats i sat at elsewhere. it was super impressive hearing the pitch hit the catchers mitt, or the crack of the bat, or saying a couple of words back and forth with the player on the on-deck circle. i don't know how that changes or better or worse when it's sunken though. i guess i'll try to snag a pair of in-the-action seats this year if they're going away as i'll probably never have access to a premium box there. You can get them for a reasonable (not that reasonable, but all things considering) price before the summer months on like a monday night vs the rays or someone. that's what i did last time.
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Totally, I get the close to the action element, that makes perfect sense. It was the sunken element I can't quite see the benefit of; seems like you're in a bit of a dungeon. Maybe it's like an emulation of the dugout? That might be the angle.
 
If a ball hits the portion circled in red below, is it a home run? If it is not a home run, (I.e part of the wall) do we know if there is plexiglass inside those gaps?

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bgobgo said:
If a ball hits the portion circled in red below, is it a home run? If it is not a home run, (I.e part of the wall) do we know if there is plexiglass inside those gaps?

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That's part of the wall so a ball has to clear that section to be considered a HR. I'd imagine the openings will be covered with mesh/fencing like in every other ballpark.
 
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