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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

canarob said:
Increasing GO service during an election should not be allowed. That being said, I hope this means Stouffville will finally get weekend trains again.
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Why? All we’re hoping for is restoration of cuts made during peak Omicron back in January.

As long as these next service changes are mere service restorations made without political fanfare, I don’t see the problem.

As for Stouffville and Barrie, GO may not be quick to restore weekend service as it makes the major expansion work a lot easier to do.
 
I know they can't hold a press conference or anything, but it's still the incumbent government giving something new of value to the electorate and that could influence voting.

Stouffville riders are back to some standing-room only buses on the weekends again, so I think they will need to add some trains again before all the big summer events start up again.
 
canarob said:
Increasing GO service during an election should not be allowed. That being said, I hope this means Stouffville will finally get weekend trains again.
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Ideally things like GO services should not be tied with politics at all. The fact that we're at a point where increasing service back to what it was like 6 months ago is something that could be considered a political move to influence an election is frightening.
 
I mean did the government hold press releases last year as services ramped up again? I know they did for things like Hamilton all-day GO service, but I don't think the return of express services on LSW received any government attention, nor any of the other service restorations.
 
ARG1 said:
Ideally things like GO services should not be tied with politics at all. The fact that we're at a point where increasing service back to what it was like 6 months ago is something that could be considered a political move to influence an election is frightening.
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The challenge here though is the relative uniqueness of the size of the ramp-up.

If service improvements are modest, a new peak-hour train, a new shoulder-peak train, shaving 3 minutes off a trip time etc etc.

These are easily done w/o seeming overtly political.

But where service restoration may literally amount to a 100% increase in service.............that's hard for that not to be political in some way.

Of course, there's a danger for a sitting government that it doesn't read so much as good news, as it serves to remind them who cut the service in the first place.
 
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Via the Globe and Mail. Ford did a campaign announcement in Bowmanville today. Not sure this capital number has been specified before or recently for the option they are going with?

The Ontario Progressive Conservatives are touting a promise to extend GO train service in Durham Region with four new stations.

PC Leader Doug Ford says it will help families save time and money.

The Tories say they’d invest $730 million to bring two-way, all-day 15-minute GO train service to Bowmanville, Ont.

The four new stations east of Oshawa, Ont., are set for Thornton’s Corners East, Ritson Road, Courtice and Bowmanville.

Ford is connecting the plan to other transportation promises that he says will save people time and money, including Highway 413 and the Bradford Bypass, as well as removing tolls on Highways 412 and 418.

The Liberals say party leader Steven Del Duca first approved the GO train expansion to Bowmanville when he was transportation minister in 2016 in the previous Liberal government and the Tories delayed it.
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Allandale25 said:
^ and the PDBC. Written in 2020 but only published now

[Corrected 6May22]: https://www.metrolinx.com/en/region...le-Rail-Service-Extension-PDBC-Final-v3-1.pdf

Re GM spur:

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Via the Globe and Mail. Ford did a campaign announcement in Bowmanville today. Not sure this capital number has been specified before or recently for the option they are going with?

The Ontario Progressive Conservatives are touting a promise to extend GO train service in Durham Region with four new stations.

PC Leader Doug Ford says it will help families save time and money.

The Tories say they’d invest $730 million to bring two-way, all-day 15-minute GO train service to Bowmanville, Ont.

The four new stations east of Oshawa, Ont., are set for Thornton’s Corners East, Ritson Road, Courtice and Bowmanville.

Ford is connecting the plan to other transportation promises that he says will save people time and money, including Highway 413 and the Bradford Bypass, as well as removing tolls on Highways 412 and 418.

The Liberals say party leader Steven Del Duca first approved the GO train expansion to Bowmanville when he was transportation minister in 2016 in the previous Liberal government and the Tories delayed it.
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Allandale25 said:
Via the Globe and Mail. Ford did a campaign announcement in Bowmanville today. Not sure this capital number has been specified before or recently for the option they are going with?






Via the Globe and Mail. Ford did a campaign announcement in Bowmanville today. Not sure this capital number has been specified before or recently for the option they are going with?
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theyve quoted $750 million, that excludes the 500 mill operations costs as quoted in the pbdc
actual costs including maintenance is between 1.3 and 1.5 bil
 
Allandale25 said:
^ Also, I think Ford was a little sloppy in his wording when he said it's "15-min, all day, two-way to Bowmanville" service frequency to Bowmanville? Start watching at the 13:18 mark here. Is that what the PDBC says it will be?
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I'm not sorry when any politician picks up the 2-way, 15-minute mantra.... but you are correct, the Business case didn't promise that. No wires on CP, so the Bowmanville service isn't an extension of that. 30 minutes peak, hourly off peak, 2 hours on weekends.

But the cost sure has grown since the IBC was tabled.

- Paul
 
^ Probably related to the cost of the (1) new bridge over the 401 beside the existing CP GM spur bridge, and the (2) new rail-under-rail grade separation for the GO-CP GM Spur track?

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Allandale25 said:
^ Probably related to the cost of the (1) new bridge over the 401 beside the existing CP GM spur bridge, and the (2) new rail-under-rail grade separation for the GO-CP GM Spur track?

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is that crossover grade separated? if theyre going to lay new tracks theres no reason why it couldnt be grade separated
 
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