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Abeja de Almirante
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Refreshingly, they didn't blame any foreign power, but instead placed the blame for economic, social and political woes thoroughly upon themselves. And...since becoming a democracy, the nation has thrived.
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ganjavih
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My question was, why did it take so long for Spain? And why are you expecting African countries to become thriving democracies within just a few years of obtaining their independence?
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Abeja de Almirante
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Ethiopia was never a European colony, and they're still a mess. Most of Africa was independant by the early 1960s. For example, Nigeria became independant in 1960...that was over 45 years ago. Enough already about your past...look at the present and future.And why are you expecting African countries to become thriving democracies within just a few years of obtaining their independence?
I see where you're going with this...that 45 years is scant sufficient time to transform a state from colony to thriving nation. Of course the Americans managed quite well, having obtained their independence in 1789 (with the enactment of the Constitution, or earlier if you start at Yorktown), and then beat the former "oppressor" to a draw in 1812. So how long should we give Africa?
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samsonyuen
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From: sg.biz.yahoo.com/070203/1/46fda.html
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Saturday February 3, 10:39 PM
Zimbabwe's white farmers face uncertain future
White Zimbabwean farmers are facing uncertainty about their future after the elapse of 45-day eviction notices.
"Because of the contradictions, some farmers are a bit anxious about what the future is going to be...it's of great concern to us," Emily Crookes, spokeswoman for the white-run Commercial Farmers' Union, told AFP.
"About 100 farmers have received eviction notices over the past four or five months," she said Saturday.
"Most of the notices give the farmers 45 days from December 20 (2006) to vacate their properties and the expiry of the notices is today.
"But from discussions we had with the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Lands, farmers will be allowed to harvest their crop and most farmers finish harvesting in May or early June."
To add to the confusion, Lands and Resettlement Minister Didymus Mutasa said last month the government would give back land to white farmers who had good relations with the government and were willing to toe the line.
Because of these contradictions, farmers were uncertain what the future would hold, Crookes said.
She said only a handful of members of her union had received 99-year leases, giving them title to continue farming.
"About 700 farmers have applied for offer letters to secure the 99-year leases but only a few have so far received them. We are still waiting for government to respond to the applications."
Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe launched controversial land reforms seven years ago, seizing land from white commercial farmers to resettle thousands of landless blacks.
Mugabe, now 82 years old, argues that the land reforms were a correction of historical imbalances in which a white minority occupied the majority of the fertile land.
Critics say the land reforms compromises agricultural production in what was southern Africa's breadbasket.
Up to 4,000 white farmers have been forcibly evicted from their properties.
a further 600 still remain in the southern African nation, which is now facing economic crisis, with four-digit inflation, mass unemplyment and at least 80 percent of the population living below the poverty threshold.
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Saturday February 3, 10:39 PM
Zimbabwe's white farmers face uncertain future
White Zimbabwean farmers are facing uncertainty about their future after the elapse of 45-day eviction notices.
"Because of the contradictions, some farmers are a bit anxious about what the future is going to be...it's of great concern to us," Emily Crookes, spokeswoman for the white-run Commercial Farmers' Union, told AFP.
"About 100 farmers have received eviction notices over the past four or five months," she said Saturday.
"Most of the notices give the farmers 45 days from December 20 (2006) to vacate their properties and the expiry of the notices is today.
"But from discussions we had with the permanent secretary in the Ministry of Lands, farmers will be allowed to harvest their crop and most farmers finish harvesting in May or early June."
To add to the confusion, Lands and Resettlement Minister Didymus Mutasa said last month the government would give back land to white farmers who had good relations with the government and were willing to toe the line.
Because of these contradictions, farmers were uncertain what the future would hold, Crookes said.
She said only a handful of members of her union had received 99-year leases, giving them title to continue farming.
"About 700 farmers have applied for offer letters to secure the 99-year leases but only a few have so far received them. We are still waiting for government to respond to the applications."
Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe launched controversial land reforms seven years ago, seizing land from white commercial farmers to resettle thousands of landless blacks.
Mugabe, now 82 years old, argues that the land reforms were a correction of historical imbalances in which a white minority occupied the majority of the fertile land.
Critics say the land reforms compromises agricultural production in what was southern Africa's breadbasket.
Up to 4,000 white farmers have been forcibly evicted from their properties.
a further 600 still remain in the southern African nation, which is now facing economic crisis, with four-digit inflation, mass unemplyment and at least 80 percent of the population living below the poverty threshold.
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bizorky
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My question was, why did it take so long for Spain? And why are you expecting African countries to become thriving democracies within just a few years of obtaining their independence?
Going one step further, it all depends on what one uses as a case for describing a democratic nation. In terms of electoral democracy, one could argue that the modern democratic nation emerged only when women took the right to vote.
By that measure, fully representative electoral democracies are all rather new.