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VIA Rail

Brightline (being owned by the same investor as their host railroad) really is the exception, but other than Florida East Coast, the host railroads go at extreme lengths to avoid interactions with passenger activities as much as possible. This is certainly regretable, but also part of the reason why we are much closer to achieve our carbon goals with freight operations than Europe…

To top it off, Brightline is no longer owned by the same investor as their host railroad, Florida East Coast Railway (FEC). Brightline is owned by Florida East Coast Industries (FECI), which is owned by Fortress Investment Group. According to Wikipedia, "Although Florida East Coast Railway at one time fell under the FECI umbrella, it is now a completely separate corporate entity owned by Grupo México's GMexico Transportes SAB de CV since 2017." Brightline started operating in January 2018.
 
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This is certainly regretable, but also part of the reason why we are much closer to achieve our carbon goals with freight operations than Europe…

If only we could be like the Swiss...

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Or Russia for that matter. But for several reasons Switzerland is probably a better a country to want to emulate... 🤣
 

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Maple Leaf on the Weston Sub. Not sure what the reason for the diversion is?View attachment 484417
Work has shut down the Oakville Sub to start the process of moving the plant at Burloak. There will be another 3 or 4 weekend diversions over the rest of the year.

This is the advance works for the grade separation that will be built there.

Dan
 
Not sure if this is the right thread, but at almost exactly the 30 min mark in this video (and continuing at about 32:30 after the technical problem) Peter Anastor, Director of the Office of Rail, Michigan Department of Transportation, talks about extending one of the Wolverine trains through the CP tunnel to the VIA station in Windsor and working with VIA to connect to Toronto. They were very uncertain what route they would use to get from the tunnel to the station.

Later on in the questions and answers, (around 56 min after saying nothing about HFR other than being interested in “working with VIA”) he mentioned that they have had discussions with Ford about using Michigan Central Depot as a station again.

 
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It would be neat to be a passenger through Campbellville Junction, although I'm sure the delay with that detour is considerable. I snowboard and mountain bike at Kelso/Glen Eden, so I'd love to see it by train.
 
It would be neat to be a passenger through Campbellville Junction, although I'm sure the delay with that detour is considerable. I snowboard and mountain bike at Kelso/Glen Eden, so I'd love to see it by train.

Almost twenty years ago, there was a special weekend steam excursion, with a full GO train behind the locomotive (a regular GO diesel locomotive provided head-end power). It ran on the Milton Sub, wyeing at CP Guelph Junction, using the Hamilton Sub wye. So I’ve done it.

There used to be a passenger station there, with meets between local trains to Guelph and CP mainline trains to Detroit.
 
no regrets on this. in fact im surprised it took them this long to realise they needed to be recertified. these cars are dinosaurs. ancient relics from a bygone era. they shouldve been phased out long ago but unfortunately via and their shoestring budgets couldnt let go of them for better or for worse. at least now there is traction via their RFP to finally replace them with modern equipment.
 
no regrets on this. in fact im surprised it took them this long to realise they needed to be recertified. these cars are dinosaurs. ancient relics from a bygone era. they shouldve been phased out long ago but unfortunately via governments and their shoestring budgets couldnt let go of them for better or for worse. at least now there is traction via their RFP to finally replace them with modern equipment.

Fixed that for you.
 
Fixed that for you.
lets not play with semantics. via had plenty of chances to push for it earlier as well instead of trying to scrape every last minute of the walking deads. its only now that they are more of a hindrance to maintain that they start to consider something new isnt a good strategy.
 
lets not play with semantics. via had plenty of chances to push for it earlier as well instead of trying to scrape every last minute of the walking deads. its only now that they are more of a hindrance to maintain that they start to consider something new isnt a good strategy.

This is an utterly uninformed and fact-absent description of what VIA has done over the last decade to sustain the long distance passenger service in this country, and the context and environment in which those decisions are made.

I would suggest you browse VIA's Annual Reports and Corporate Plans for the past decade. They are all on line.

VIA has spent the last decade beating back a series of policy recommendations to trim or eliminate long distance trains altogether. That's hardly an environment where one would be pitching new equipment acquisition. For the most part, those concerns appear to have been addressed and the continued subsidy is (I hope) less at risk than it was a decade ago. Along the way, VIA had to resolve issues around timekeeping and scheduling that impacted the reputation of the service. Again, that's not a good moment to go asking for money for new equipment.

VIA was successful for a time in getting money to overhaul various classes of long distance cars. The thing that made those proposals compelling was a need for accessibility. Those programs were cut back in the end.

VIA also spent the last decade documenting (successfully) the need to replace the Corridor fleet, and (less successfully) trying to get government to consider the HFR proposal. There's good judgement in putting those programs at the top of the list. Through all of that, VIA has been clear that the LD fleet is reaching end of life.

And that's just what was put in print. I'm confident that VIA was not shy in alerting Ottawa behind closed doors about the aging of its fleet. It's pretty obvious why those discussions would not happen in public. In the end, they can only make requests.

- Paul
 
This is an utterly uninformed and fact-absent description of what VIA has done over the last decade to sustain the long distance passenger service in this country, and the context and environment in which those decisions are made.

I would suggest you browse VIA's Annual Reports and Corporate Plans for the past decade. They are all on line.

VIA has spent the last decade beating back a series of policy recommendations to trim or eliminate long distance trains altogether. That's hardly an environment where one would be pitching new equipment acquisition. For the most part, those concerns appear to have been addressed and the continued subsidy is (I hope) less at risk than it was a decade ago. Along the way, VIA had to resolve issues around timekeeping and scheduling that impacted the reputation of the service. Again, that's not a good moment to go asking for money for new equipment.

VIA was successful for a time in getting money to overhaul various classes of long distance cars. The thing that made those proposals compelling was a need for accessibility. Those programs were cut back in the end.

VIA also spent the last decade documenting (successfully) the need to replace the Corridor fleet, and (less successfully) trying to get government to consider the HFR proposal. There's good judgement in putting those programs at the top of the list. Through all of that, VIA has been clear that the LD fleet is reaching end of life.

And that's just what was put in print. I'm confident that VIA was not shy in alerting Ottawa behind closed doors about the aging of its fleet. It's pretty obvious why those discussions would not happen in public. In the end, they can only make requests.

- Paul
And that doesn't even cover the 1980s, when VIA was || close to getting all new equipment to replace the Budd cars with brand new Superliners. Alas. that funding was pulled at the last minute.

But that must have been VIA's fault too, right?

Dan
 

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