TTC: Other Items (catch all)

[turbanplanner]

Well you've pretty much summed up the funding issues and that's my point, we ignore the issues that we face until it becomes extreme. Which is pretty much John Tory's mantra: delay, defer, put on the approved but unfunded never ending list of projects, and beg upper levels of government for funding. By the time we get to addressing said problem, it becomes magnified even more and the state of affairs is worse than it initially was.

That's the problem we've been having in this city for 8+ years, and it's a big reason nothing ever gets done. If something actually does get done, it takes eons because we cant fund anything or our "leadership" genuinely is unable to come up with a solution.

He only has two options that I see.

1. Ask higher levels of government to work together to fix an issue (which he seems to be trying)

2. Double Toronto property tax and as a public servant a bigger budget will never be enough and a significant amount will be wasted by beaurcracy and waste

 

[Undead]

There were some leaders in the 1930s with very similar ideas on how to deal with the “unhealable.”

Godwin's law alive and well!

 

[T3G]

Godwin's law alive and well!

I mean, just because people make a lot of inappropriate comparisons to Nazis doesn't mean that there aren't times when those comparisons aren't apt.

I also long ago learned to stop expecting any empathy from the internet, so I do not find this shocking in the least.

 

[Northern Light]

Godwin's law alive and well!

@ShonTron is literally accurate in this case, mass execution of the disabled was a Nazi program.

The Murder of People with Disabilities

At the beginning of WWII, people with mental or physical disabilities were targeted for murder in what the Nazis called the T-4, or "euthanasia," program.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

 

[APTA-2048]

@ShonTron is literally accurate in this case, mass execution of the disabled was a Nazi program.

The Murder of People with Disabilities

At the beginning of WWII, people with mental or physical disabilities were targeted for murder in what the Nazis called the T-4, or "euthanasia," program.

encyclopedia.ushmm.org

People like to trot out “Godwin’s Law” so much that it obscures really concerning ideologies. The poster above was literally advocating for the extermination of a segment of the population and it was simply dismissed as no big deal. We actually do have a problem when people start to think this way.

 

[T3G]

People like to trot out “Godwin’s Law” so much that it obscures really concerning ideologies. The poster above was literally advocating for the extermination of a segment of the population and it was simply dismissed as no big deal. We actually do have a problem when people start to think this way.

I think it speaks volumes that we've started to see the rise in such ideologies as the last survivors of the Holocaust have started to die off in large numbers.

 

[turbanplanner]

Well you've pretty much summed up the funding issues and that's my point, we ignore the issues that we face until it becomes extreme. Which is pretty much John Tory's mantra: delay, defer, put on the approved but unfunded never ending list of projects, and beg upper levels of government for funding. By the time we get to addressing said problem, it becomes magnified even more and the state of affairs is worse than it initially was.

That's the problem we've been having in this city for 8+ years, and it's a big reason nothing ever gets done. If something actually does get done, it takes eons because we cant fund anything or our "leadership" genuinely is unable to come up with a solution.

But a 100% hike is not reasonable. Toronto property taxes are about the same as other major canadian cities. We have two land transfer taxes, a $200k + development charge for every new condo unit.

 

[Undead]

The original post was not productive and neither was the response. Stupid comment, stupid response I guess.

I think it speaks volumes that we've started to see the rise in such ideologies as the last survivors of the Holocaust have started to die off in large numbers.

Yeah because the schools have become focused on fostering certain ideologies instead of teaching.

People like to trot out “Godwin’s Law” so much that it obscures really concerning ideologies. The poster above was literally advocating for the extermination of a segment of the population and it was simply dismissed as no big deal. We actually do have a problem when people start to think this way.

On the other hand, the boy who cried wolf call everything Nazi is also a major problem.

Compounded by shocking amounts of ignorance.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-holocaust-survey-remembrance-1.4994602

One-third of Canadian, American students think Holocaust was fabricated: study | Globalnews.ca

'We absolutely need to have Holocaust education mandated on the curriculum for every province and territory in Canada and it needs to be something that's comprehensive.'

globalnews.ca

“One in three of our respondents stated that they believed that the Holocaust was fabricated or not reported in a way that was accurate to what actually happened,” said Alex Lerner, researcher and assistant professor of political science at the U.S. Naval Academy.

I'm very aware of this. Highly ironic given the extreme emphasis on the unmasking "oppression" mission which schools have adopted.

 

[APTA-2048]

I think it speaks volumes that we've started to see the rise in such ideologies as the last survivors of the Holocaust have started to die off in large numbers.

Compounded by shocking amounts of ignorance.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-holocaust-survey-remembrance-1.4994602

One-third of Canadian, American students think Holocaust was fabricated: study | Globalnews.ca

'We absolutely need to have Holocaust education mandated on the curriculum for every province and territory in Canada and it needs to be something that's comprehensive.'

globalnews.ca

“One in three of our respondents stated that they believed that the Holocaust was fabricated or not reported in a way that was accurate to what actually happened,” said Alex Lerner, researcher and assistant professor of political science at the U.S. Naval Academy.

 

[APTA-2048]

The original post was not productive and neither was the response.


Yeah because the schools have become focused on fostering certain ideologies instead of teaching.

On the other hand, the boy who cried wolf call everything Nazi is also a major problem.

Yeah one post calling for the extermination of the mentally ill and one saying it’s a bad thing are totally on the same level. What utter horseshit.

 

[Undead]

Yeah one post calling for the extermination of the mentally ill and one saying it’s a bad thing are totally on the same level. What utter horseshit.

You're free to miss my point.

 

[turbanplanner]

Compounded by shocking amounts of ignorance.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-holocaust-survey-remembrance-1.4994602

One-third of Canadian, American students think Holocaust was fabricated: study | Globalnews.ca

'We absolutely need to have Holocaust education mandated on the curriculum for every province and territory in Canada and it needs to be something that's comprehensive.'

globalnews.ca

“One in three of our respondents stated that they believed that the Holocaust was fabricated or not reported in a way that was accurate to what actually happened,” said Alex Lerner, researcher and assistant professor of political science at the U.S. Naval Academy.

That casts a pretty wide net, someone who believes numbers could be off is put in the same boat as someone who thinks it never happened

 

[PinkLucy]

Let’s get back to the issues on the TTC

 

[turbanplanner]

Let’s get back to the issues on the TTC

Mentally Ill people running and and stabbing others on the ttc feels like a a relevant issue

 

[PinkLucy]

Yes, that is. It’s going down the road of Holocaust discussions that is pulling us off track.