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TTC: Other Items (catch all)

drum118

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Nothing on funding for Queens Quay East LRT, surely it would appear here?
It coming through Council since the City is funding it. The City has to build the new QQE or have Waterfront do it on the city dime.
 

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TTC's website is back to normal today.

I will be posting any interesting observations I have of their published budget; and updating this post as I go.

I will delineate the Capital and Operating budgets separately.

Capital Budget and 15-year Capital Plan:

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Here's a breath-taking bit............

This is the amount of un-funded Capital Need in the TTC's 15-year plan..........yes......that's 25 Billion with a B

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Ok........,change of plans, to be con't in next post due to image limits!
 

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For those asking about Platform Edge Doors; they are costed and below and in the 'unfunded' category.

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Of note in the Real Estate Plan below is that 'Yard Access' for the new Western Yard for Line 2 (Obico) is pencilled in for 2034

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Of note here are the Waterfront LRT projects which show a finish date of 2029: (while this is for the real estate, nominally, I believe that it reflects projected in-service dates)

Also interesting: Broadview Loop Expansion (listed as current); and Park Lawn GO Station Loop showing 2026

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*** All sorts of Easter Eggs here.......****

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Well now....... look here..............Western Extension of Line 2 gets a mention:

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Waterfront East LRT has a dedicated section:

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Ok.....sorry folks, this will take another post.........image limits again!
 

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So many interesting things, Capital Budget and 15-year Plan cont'd

Big notes here, TTC moving to serious explore St. George Station expansion on a scale comparable to Bloor-Yonge;
Also, Expansion of the King Station concourse and a second exit for St. Andrew

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Also of note, finalization of easement at the Crossways for Dundas West is marked 2022

Speaking of which, the TTC has a list of properties to work with CreateTO on City-Building.

It includes much of what is above the deck over the Line 1 open cut (just of Summerhill to just south of St. Clair Stations). Also 2 more sites at Yonge/Bloor (in addition to 2 Bloor East/HBC Centre); and Crossways.

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Phew, done Capital, for now.
 

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So many interesting things, Capital Budget and 15-year Plan cont'd

Big notes here, TTC moving to serious explore St. George Station expansion on a scale comparable to Bloor-Yonge;
Also, Expansion of the King Station concourse and a second exit for St. Andrew

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Also of note, finalization of easement at the Crossways for Dundas West is marked 2022

Speaking of which, the TTC has a list of properties to work with CreateTO on City-Building.

It includes much of what is above the deck over the Line 1 open cut (just of Summerhill to just south of St. Clair Stations). Also 2 more sites at Yonge/Bloor (in addition to 2 Bloor East/HBC Centre); and Crossways.

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Phew, done Capital, for now.

Interesting, the St. George Station stacked expansion is funded - can't imagine it is something nearly as expansive as the Y/B work, or we would have for sure heard about it.

AoD
 

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Interesting, the St. George Station stacked expansion is funded - can't imagine it is something nearly as expansive as the Y/B work, or we would have for sure heard about it.

AoD

I'll see if I can't dig up the numbers.......

But my understanding is it is comparable to Bloor-Yonge.........and the price tag has a B

2 new platforms, and a concourse expansion, plus 3 or more new elevators
 

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Speaking of which, the TTC has a list of properties to work with CreateTO on City-Building.

It includes much of what is above the deck over the Line 1 open cut (just of Summerhill to just south of St. Clair Stations). Also 2 more sites at Yonge/Bloor (in addition to 2 Bloor East/HBC Centre); and Crossways.

I wonder if they've looked into building over track around Davisville (and other open air sections)? Their has been proposals for the Davisville area. CreateTO could use the air rights above TTC tracks to secure more affordable housing along all appropriate open sections of subway track.
 

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I wonder if they've looked into building over track around Davisville (and other open air sections)? Their has been proposals for the Davisville area. CreateTO could use the air rights above TTC tracks to secure more affordable housing along all appropriate open sections of subway track.

Nothing is listed yet..........but the TTC is aware of an opportunity. (I mean general, not a specific proposal).

Josh Matlow is strongly pushing for park space on a deck over the tracks north of the yard.

The Yard itself is a bit more challenging for a variety of reasons (the TTC needs the capacity and the yard would have to remain operational not only at completion, but during construction; at the south end, the footprint of existing buildings is extremely close to the yard tracks as is (separation distance); also in addition to the obvious, Yellow Creek runs directly under the subway yard in a very large tunnel.

All that said, I expect you will see development here, but not in the near term.

Also the TTC is set to transfer their HQ to the City (likely CreateTO) which will put in the queue for redevelopment; once the TTC finds new digs.
 

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I wonder if they've looked into building over track around Davisville (and other open air sections)? Their has been proposals for the Davisville area. CreateTO could use the air rights above TTC tracks to secure more affordable housing along all appropriate open sections of subway track.
Yet the NIMBYs near the proposed Royal Orchard Station for the North Yonge extension are upset that tunnels for their subway would dare be a minimum depth of 21 metres and as deep as 50 metres below the surface below them.

Maybe there are "good vibrations" around Davisville?

 
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Amazing details, comments, and breakdown @Northern Light!

There's so much that can be discussed regarding the capital budget, but what's clear as a general note is that the politicians need to get their heads out of their collective bums because I could classify ~90% of the capital budget as things that are absolutely necessary. The status quo, austerity era needs to come to an end and quickly because this lack of funding issue will cripple the network if it continues.
 

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