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Or we could just spend that money on new vehicles with a decent MDBF and which are not "barely accessible".

I see that 4230 is at Roncesvalles this morning after being at Russell yesterday. Transsee does not show it signed in today. Is it possible that As are doing tripper runs without showing up on Nextbus/Transsee? Because otherwise why is 4230 being shuttled here and there?
One of the major issues for doing the current fleet is the body rust. Unlike El Paso who see next to no salt on the road, if at all. The current fleet does and how much of the body has to be cut away to deal with the rust from the salt?

I agree it best to sped money on new cars that are better than we have today for MDBF. I have seen a list of cars out of actions and far too long except for the ones that have been derail or in an accidents.

No idea on the 4200's cars except less than 10 are left and a fair number of the other ones are missing parts at Russell. We will have to wait to see if any hit service this summer as plan.
 

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One of the major issues for doing the current fleet is the body rust.
The body rust has very little bearing on whether a car is capable of going out in service or not. There are quite a few cars that have holes large enough to put a hand or more into, and yet they still see service every day.

What is a very big problem is with the propulsion systems and the air systems on the ageing cars. And on the Cs the wear on the wheels, as changing them is no insignificant task. A number of cars were retired early on solely because they had 4 pairs of bad wheels.

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The body rust has very little bearing on whether a car is capable of going out in service or not. There are quite a few cars that have holes large enough to put a hand or more into, and yet they still see service every day.

What is a very big problem is with the propulsion systems and the air systems on the ageing cars. And on the Cs the wear on the wheels, as changing them is no insignificant task. A number of cars were retired early on solely because they had 4 pairs of bad wheels.

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If you don't have a body/shell, what good are the other part even if they are out data?? A new propulsion systems can be had at a cost as well a new truck system and wheels. Is it worth it, than going to a new car??

Sound like TTC stop ordering new wheels long ago and another reason for 2019 retirement if none of the scrap cars had good wheels to pass on to other cars.

Its like having a house with no foundation.
 

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If you don't have a body/shell, what good are the other part even if they are out data??
Like I said, the condition of the body has very little bearing on whether a car goes out or not. Cars with holes go out all the time.

When the rebuild program was still a thing, they were fixing up the bodies because it was expected that the cars would need to last a couple more years in service - but that has long since passed.

A new propulsion systems can be had at a cost as well a new truck system and wheels. Is it worth it, than going to a new car??
The TTC obviously didn't think so. Do you think that anyone here would know better than them?

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Or we could just spend that money on new vehicles with a decent MDBF and which are not "barely accessible".

I see that 4230 is at Roncesvalles this morning after being at Russell yesterday. Transsee does not show it signed in today. Is it possible that As are doing tripper runs without showing up on Nextbus/Transsee? Because otherwise why is 4230 being shuttled here and there?

4230 and 4249 are at Roncesvalles for repairs, many legacy cars have been going there for repairs lately.
 

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Indeed, with cars arriving in only 5 years.

But they are still making similar stupid comments today - in the 2019 budget they deferred the purchase of 60 additional cars from 2020 to ... well they talk about cars starting to arrive in 2024 and complete in 2026, despite not beginning tendering them yet ... watch it will be 2035+ ...
 

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Not sure what TTC is planning on doing with the PCC's starting in 2020, but they can do what El Paso TX did to their 1937 PCC's. They were rebuilt from the ground up to today standards as well meeting OADA requirements with a lift at the rear door.
since they only have two and they aren't used for revenue service I doubt they would ever even think of putting in a lift into them. There was a mention somewhere that they have or have plans to purchase pantographs for them so they can be used for charter service and in parades etc.
 

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Heads up for those travelling through Union.

TTC access to be redirected via the York Concourse into the western end of the moat. The work is being done to complete the glass roof over the moat and allow for further enhancements in the section currently used to access the TTC.

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since they only have two and they aren't used for revenue service I doubt they would ever even think of putting in a lift into them. There was a mention somewhere that they have or have plans to purchase pantographs for them so they can be used for charter service and in parades etc.
As we can see now, pole cars can operate on 'panto ready' routes - the PCCs ran on Queens Quay last summer. Pantos cannot operate on non-panto-ready routes. Why would they need to convert the 2 PCCs or the Witt to pantos?
 

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As we can see now, pole cars can operate on 'panto ready' routes - the PCCs ran on Queens Quay last summer. Pantos cannot operate on non-panto-ready routes. Why would they need to convert the 2 PCCs or the Witt to pantos?
Pole cars can't operate on St Clair plus eventually, they are going to change out the overhead for the switches, once they do that trolly poles won't be able to be used. Also, the PCC's haven't been on Queens Quy since 509 was made pantograph only.
 

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Heads up for those travelling through Union.

TTC access to be redirected via the York Concourse into the western end of the moat. The work is being done to complete the glass roof over the moat and allow for further enhancements in the section currently used to access the TTC.

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Noticed that they have (finally) removed the 'bracing' and associated barriers in the passageway near the Danish Pastry Shop and appear to have done more repairs to the ceilings. Pity they did not finish painting this ceiling before the new routes at Union open next week.
 

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We made a new video on Islington station: Old and nostalgic with little quirks like the old bus terminal and the train signal exposed on the platform. Love seeing the history behind it but it would be nicer if it was upgraded!

Blue Construction Tarp (2008) - Art installation awaiting heritage designation!

I haven't been out there for years. What a decrepit mess.
 

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