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This is the same rhetoric thrown around before the last wildcat strike. I can totally see them pulling that stunt again. Probably on a really important day, like when there's a Jays playoff game.
 
Jonny5 said:
This is the same rhetoric thrown around before the last wildcat strike. I can totally see them pulling that stunt again. Probably on a really important day, like when there's a Jays playoff game.
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I can't wait to see them try. Remember the last time when they dropped everyone mid-trip at midnight without any advance notice that they're going to do so, on the argument that they needed to protect their members from the public?

And an essential service staging a wildcat strike - that's going to go *so well*.

AoD
 
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salsa said:
Ben Spurr ‏@BenSpurr
Breaking: TTC has filed an application with the Ont Labour Relations Board in response to what it says was an illegal strike on Nuit Blanche
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Didn't that request mean overtime? Isn't overtime voluntary? Wouldn't refusing overtime mean that there would be less people on the "Sunshine List" which the fiscal conservatives always complain about? So to reduce the good chances on getting mentioned on the "Sunshine List", don't volunteer for overtime.
 
W. K. Lis said:
Didn't that request mean overtime? Isn't overtime voluntary? Wouldn't refusing overtime mean that there would be less people on the "Sunshine List" which the fiscal conservatives always complain about? So to reduce the good chances on getting mentioned on the "Sunshine List", don't volunteer for overtime.
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Apparently what happened is they asked for volunteers to sign up to provide service during Nuit Blanche. They didn't get enough to provide a safe serve so supervisors crewed some trains.
 
Brad Ross Verified account ‏@bradTTC
As some know, the #TTC has concerns about unlawful work action by ATU 113. An application was filed with OLRB today to stop such activity.
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Oh look at the tweet history of some of those having issues with that - and you'd think full on driverless might be the best - because I sure as hell won't trust them upholding customer safety.

AoD
 
I noticed today that the TTC has, finally, persuaded Astral and the City to remove the transit shelter from King @victoria which ceased to be a stop several months ago. I assume they have, or will, also be removing the shelters from the other non-stops. It really was very confusing for people to have a shelter and no stop (and often no sign saying the stop had been removed!)
 
DSC said:
I noticed today that the TTC has, finally, persuaded Astral and the City to remove the transit shelter from King @victoria which ceased to be a stop several months ago. I assume they have, or will, also be removing the shelters from the other non-stops. It really was very confusing for people to have a shelter and no stop (and often no sign saying the stop had been removed!)
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It took a couple months for the ones on Harbord to disappear too. All excess shelters will be removed, probably relocated, at some point.
 
APTA-2048 said:
Who says a significant portion of drivers believe there is nothing wrong? Just because someone rationalizes the behaviour doesn't mean they necessarily excuse them. Drivers can relate because of their experience. Insufficient leg space or improper layout are a thing. So is having to shorten or sacrifice your snack break.
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Try using that in court. You may be right, you may be wrong on causation, but if that excuse holds for bus drivers, then it holds for all of us....and it doesn't.

No matter how you stack it, that driver was not in full control of his vehicle.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
Oh look, ATU is dissatisfied and threatens job action:

http://www.metronews.ca/news/toronto/2016/10/04/ttc-union-head-warns-possible-job-action-.html

Perhaps it's time to pull a Ronald Reagan on that bunch.

AoD
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The analogy isn't fair. ATC is a highly professional job, and to this day, there's a dearth of professionals to fill the void of that action. I'm neutral on the job action, just pointing out the results of the mass firings.

Transit drivers are nothing close to that level of expertise.
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Air traffic controllers are generally individuals who are well organized, are quick with numeric computations and mathematics, have assertive and firm decision making skills, are able to maintain their composure under pressure, and possess an excellent short-term memory. Through numerous studies throughout the decades, it has been successfully demonstrated that traffic controllers usually have a superior visual memory, and in addition, studies have shown that air traffic controllers generally have a degree of situational awareness that is significantly better than the population average. In 'games' involving short-term memory, peer-induced stresses, and real-time risk analysis, air traffic control specialists scored better than the control group in every experiment. Excellent hearing and speaking skills are a requirement, and trainees undergo rigorous physical and psychological testing.

Moreover, the position of the air traffic controller requires some of the strictest medical and mental requirements for any profession in the world; conditions such as diabetes, epilepsy, heart disease, and many mental disorders (e.g., clinical depression, ADHD, bipolar disorder, a history of drug abuse) almost always disqualify people from obtaining medical certification from the overseeing aviation authority. Almost universally, controllers are subjected to rigid medical and mental exams to ensure safety in the air traffic system. In the United States, for example, all air traffic controllers are required to take and pass a Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory before being hired by the Federal Aviation Administration. Conditions such as hypertension, while not disqualifying, are taken seriously and must be monitored with medical examinations by certified doctors. Controllers must take precautions to remain healthy and avoid certain medications that are banned for them. Many drugs approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) such as SSRI antidepressants and benzodiazepines, are banned. Almost universally, trainee controllers begin work in their twenties and retire in their fifties. This is due to an FAA requirement that trainees begin their training at the Academy no later than their 31st birthday, and face mandatory retirement at age 56.[4][...]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_traffic_controller

TTC drivers? Errrr...not so much...
 
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salsa said:
Ben Spurr ‏@BenSpurr
Breaking: TTC has filed an application with the Ont Labour Relations Board in response to what it says was an illegal strike on Nuit Blanche
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The letter also said that some TTC employees who have signed up for overtime this weekend have faced bullying and intimidation.

“Reporting to work on time and fit for duty is an obligation we all have. There’s a moral obligation, too, about coming to work on days and times scheduled,” the letter says.

It added that “an organized or concerted effort to disrupt the TTC by not coming to work, or by way of an illegal work stoppage, slow down or strike” constitutes a violation of the laws and agreements governing the TTC’s relationship with its employees.

The commission has now filed an application with the Ontario Labour Relations Board to have last weekend’s refusal to sign up for the Nuit Blanche shifts declared “an illegal strike supported by the union.”

The TTC is also seeking an order prohibiting the transit union from supporting or encouraging any illegal strike action.[...]
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http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ttc-files-application-with-labour-board-to-quash-job-action-1.3106577

Well, if they ever expected the public to support them on needing a guard on the train, they just blew past the stop...
 
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