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TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

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Two photos and a question:

On vacation, and on our way out west, overnighting in Thunder Bay. Two photos taken at 6 PM today, Friday, June 15, by the Bombardier plant. Number 4485 - looks like it is ready to ship. In the second photo, peeking out behind 4485 are two more TTC Flexity cars - could not tell the numbers. The one in the right hand bay with power on, the one in the bay on the left, just visible behind Number 4485, no obvious power on.

The question - has the street car which was involved in the accident at King and University several weeks ago been repaired, is it back in service? I believe it was Number 4445, which according to the Transee tracing, is back operational, but when I went to confirm the unit number, I was not able to find the original posts about the accident, and I did not see any comments regarding the status of its repairs.

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Is there a way to subscribe to a service that’ll send alerts each time a new streetcar is being moved upon delivery tied to each streetcars GPS.
 

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Is there a way to subscribe to a service that’ll send alerts each time a new streetcar is being moved upon delivery tied to each streetcars GPS.
The car GPS doesn't get activated when the car arrives, but days to a week or so after it arrives at the Barns. It has to be install first.

I don't know of any program that will do what you want, but not my field of knowledge in the first place.

It would be interesting to know why 4466 spent almost the last 24 hours on the test track at Hillcrest. It was sitting outside on service track 7 at the east end (last south track) at the Barns for hours before moving inside.

By the looks of things, 4480 is done or about done doing the burn in distance and could spend the weekend getting ready for service for Monday or later in the week. Been out almost 24 hrs a day.

4481 has been out, but not close to what 4480 has being doing and is currently in the service bay.

4482 still not tracking yet, since the GPS is either not install or installed, but not activated.
 

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Two photos and a question:

On vacation, and on our way out west, overnighting in Thunder Bay. Two photos taken at 6 PM today, Friday, June 15, by the Bombardier plant. Number 4485 - looks like it is ready to ship. In the second photo, peeking out behind 4485 are two more TTC Flexity cars - could not tell the numbers. The one in the right hand bay with power on, the one in the bay on the left, just visible behind Number 4485, no obvious power on.

The question - has the street car which was involved in the accident at King and University several weeks ago been repaired, is it back in service? I believe it was Number 4445, which according to the Transee tracing, is back operational, but when I went to confirm the unit number, I was not able to find the original posts about the accident, and I did not see any comments regarding the status of its repairs.

The photos:

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Yes, 4445 has been repaired and is back in service.
 

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Since 4484 is at the loading dock and to be off loaded Monday or Tuesday, where 4483?? Maybe 4483 is in CP yard waiting for 4484 to be off loaded first. Then, it could been off loaded already.

As it stands, 4483, 4485 and 4486 have to be ship by this coming Friday to meet Q2 schedule. 4485 could be loaded for shipment now based on the photo above.

4482 is still not tracking after been here 5 days.

4481 has been out since 12 am today and currently going southbound on Bathurst St to 509 route.

4480 is currently in the service bay since Friday night.

4466 GPS has the car in Lake Ontario since Friday night and still there.
 

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^There's another delivery en route which went through Alliston around sunrise today. It's too soon to be 4485, so maybe it's a tardy 4483.

I'm actually surprised that they have shipped as reliably in order as they have. It would be very likely that car X would have some last minute glitch or final quality check failure that would hold up its release, with car x+1 coming off the line and ready to ship sooner. Back when the line was not moving at current rates, that was less likely.... but I would expect more out-of-order deliveries than we've seen.

- Paul
 

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I'm actually surprised that they have shipped as reliably in order as they have. It would be very likely that car X would have some last minute glitch or final quality check failure that would hold up its release, with car x+1 coming off the line and ready to ship sooner. Back when the line was not moving at current rates, that was less likely.... but I would expect more out-of-order deliveries than we've seen.

That's an interesting thought. I just assumed they used a different tracking ID internally and slapped the TTC ID number on it as one of the final steps.
 

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That's an interesting thought. I just assumed they used a different tracking ID internally and slapped the TTC ID number on it as one of the final steps.

I don’t know what Bombardier does, but it’s more common for the internal shop or frame numbering to be mapped to the end user numbering sequence fairly early, at least on paper. That way, the installation of any uniquely numbered components (traction motors, electronics boards, or whatever) can be tracked and kept straight. Also depends on where the paint shop sits in the production sequence.

Kinda like when the satellite radio marketers started sending me promotional material while my new car was still on a transporter a thousand miles away from the dealer.

- Paul
 

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I don’t know what Bombardier does, but it’s more common for the internal shop or frame numbering to be mapped to the end user numbering sequence fairly early, at least on paper. That way, the installation of any uniquely numbered components (traction motors, electronics boards, or whatever) can be tracked and kept straight. Also depends on where the paint shop sits in the production sequence.

Kinda like when the satellite radio marketers started sending me promotional material while my new car was still on a transporter a thousand miles away from the dealer.

- Paul


On the commercial aircraft side maps very early each 'air frame' to each customer and there they have had many out of order deliveries. abcdlist.nl/cseries/cseries.html

That's an entirely different ball game as the customers have distinct aircraft, but I'm sure BBD is likely to have the car number mapped out at the first step of assembly at TB.
 

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I don’t know what Bombardier does, but it’s more common for the internal shop or frame numbering to be mapped to the end user numbering sequence fairly early, at least on paper. That way, the installation of any uniquely numbered components (traction motors, electronics boards, or whatever) can be tracked and kept straight. Also depends on where the paint shop sits in the production sequence.

Kinda like when the satellite radio marketers started sending me promotional material while my new car was still on a transporter a thousand miles away from the dealer.

- Paul
Thunder Bay has two production lines and running at a time right now. They get inspected, QC tested and shipped in order of completion rather than fleet number ordering. During the production run they'll always have about 4-5 assembled vehicles in the bays for inspection, QC testing and final touches and they leave a couple bays empty in case something happens to some during shipping (like 4466). It's also not unsual for one line to work slightly faster than another in a production facility.
 

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Since 4484 is at the loading dock and to be off loaded Monday or Tuesday, where 4483?? Maybe 4483 is in CP yard waiting for 4484 to be off loaded first. Then, it could been off loaded already.

As it stands, 4483, 4485 and 4486 have to be ship by this coming Friday to meet Q2 schedule. 4485 could be loaded for shipment now based on the photo above.

4482 is still not tracking after been here 5 days.

4481 has been out since 12 am today and currently going southbound on Bathurst St to 509 route.

4480 is currently in the service bay since Friday night.

4466 GPS has the car in Lake Ontario since Friday night and still there.

I'm told 4485 is at the loading ramp at the plant in Thunder Bay this past Saturday and might have been at the gate as of Sunday for pick up by CP.
 

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4482 is now tracking

Still leaves 4486 to be ship by this weekend to make Q2 schedule

4481 getting ready to leave the yard. It was out earlier as a 501 in service car on Queen
 

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