TTC: Flexity Streetcars Testing & Delivery (Bombardier)

[TransitBart]

Here is something to cheer.

Today - Sunday, Sept. 4 2016

13 units on 510
2 on 509 - yay! - more than one.
And 2 on 514. Two crosstown airconitioned rides.

One in transit to Toronto and however many maintenance spares.

Two years ago today, two in service.

Progress. Just not what was contracted. It can only get better.

 

[nfitz]

That's only 17 units. A typical weekday count lately has been 15 on 510, 2 on 509, and 1 on 510.

Looking right now, it's up to 14 now on 510 (and 2 on the other 2 routes). So 18 in service - as is often the case.

 

[drum118]

Ask the riders what they think of the sardine can ride on the 509, as well the missing in action of the 510 on QQ these days.

There should be at least 4-5 new cars on the 509 as well more CLRV's.

I had to tell at least 7 different riders at different time there was no 510 that they were waiting for. I said they had to go to Spadina Loop to catch it.

There was at time 10 minute gap with 1-3 showing up in a pack.

Anyone going in either direction for the 509 were left standing at stops when a car pull up, as they were crush loaded.

Not sure who running planning and service these days since Mitch retire a few months ago, but it off the wall planning not for streetcars, but buses.

I guess TTC like egg on their face over the piss poor service of riders they have control over these days.

The sooner BBD either gets their act together or TTC finds another supplier or 2, the better TTC riders will be.

What was odd, I saw 3 509 buses go west on QQ with no riders and thought they were running express from the loop to Yonge, but saw them later going up York with no riders.

Hard to say if TTC had enough crews to put 21 on the street during the Ex, but they should be unless there problems with them.

Never saw a notice regarding the short turning of the 510 in shelters.

TTC drivers were having major issues with pedestrians crossing in front of them mid block who lazy walk across the tracks.

 

[Kitsune]

Further - there were so many of the Flexities trying to jam into the Spadina loop they were blocking traffic on Queens Quay, and upon exiting they were essentially treating the new cars as a tank - aggressively nudging into traffic with the support of a TTC official. I heard an official trying to get a car to pull into the crosswalk crossing Spadina at lakeshore to create more room for the streetcar to pull out.

 

[pstogios]

But but but we need to keep those jobs in Thunder Bay.

 

[Tuscani01]

Further - there were so many of the Flexities trying to jam into the Spadina loop they were blocking traffic on Queens Quay, and upon exiting they were essentially treating the new cars as a tank - aggressively nudging into traffic with the support of a TTC official. I heard an official trying to get a car to pull into the crosswalk crossing Spadina at lakeshore to create more room for the streetcar to pull out.

While blocking QQ is new, using the streetcars as a tank and nudging onto Spadina has always happened. Without that nudging, streetcars would be stuck in the loop forever as cars never let them in.

 

[TransitBart]

While blocking QQ is new, using the streetcars as a tank and nudging onto Spadina has always happened. Without that nudging, streetcars would be stuck in the loop forever as cars never let them in.

Let's put a cow catcher on the front of all vehicles assigned to 509...

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Here is something to cheer.

Today - Sunday, Sept. 4 2016

13 units on 510
2 on 509 - yay! - more than one.
And 2 on 514. Two crosstown airconitioned rides.

One in transit to Toronto and however many maintenance spares.

Two years ago today, two in service.

Progress. Just not what was contracted. It can only get better.

Don't say that it can only get better. We'll soon discover a manufacturing defect in the LFLRV that will force all units to be recalled and add two years onto the delivery schedule.

 

[TransitBart]

Don't say that it can only get better. We'll soon discover a manufacturing defect in the LFLRV that will force all units to be recalled and add two years onto the delivery schedule.

Unless this is a known fact, then this is conjecture. In a situation like this, at that stage, a purchaser might declare a 'force majeure' and move on. But since the clock is ticking so closely on the old fleet, that would be a problem. Best we let the TTC and BBD iron this out.

 

[drum118]

5 Flexity on 509 today, as well more CLRV's, but no help to Union Platform.

Never seen duel a rope line up like this before. The first twin line at the east end of the platform and then move to another at the stair that lead to to the loop. Enforcement on hand to make sure there was a gap for riders coming from the loop.

Photos to follow this week.

As for keeping jobs in Thunder Bay is a smoke screen, as anyone else could have them in the GTA, Toronto, or another part of Ontario.

 

[TrickyRicky]

In other news they are behind on their C-Series plane delivery as well. Only 7 of 15. We complain here but this company really does have a management problem when it can't execute across projects and divisions.

 

[TOareaFan]

In other news they are behind on their C-Series plane delivery as well. Only 7 of 15. We complain here but this company really does have a management problem when it can't execute across projects and divisions.

Seems to be the way the world moves these days...BBD notes that Pratt & Whitney hasn't been able to ramp up production on the new engines that make the plane so fuel efficient and Pratt & Whitney then note:

inconsistent performance from its suppliers as the company attempts to increase production rates of the new engine to meet a hefty order backlog.

“We’ve made significant headway in the supply chain, but there is some pressure on new engine deliveries for this year,” Alberto Canal, a Pratt spokesman, said Tuesday by e-mail. He said the engine is meeting or exceeding performance specifications.

 

[kps]

But but but we need to keep those jobs in Thunder Bay.

Those jobs in Thunder Bay have previously passed from the original Canadian Car & Foundry through A. V. Roe / Hawker-Siddeley, UTDC, SNC-Lavalin, and the Ontario government, and will no doubt outlast Bombardier as well.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Those jobs in Thunder Bay have previously passed from the original Canadian Car & Foundry through A. V. Roe / Hawker-Siddeley, UTDC, SNC-Lavalin, and the Ontario government, and will no doubt outlast Bombardier as well.

They built some of the Hurricanes in Fort William (Thunder Bay) during WWII. Definitely built them faster than the new streetcars.

 

[AlbertHWagstaff]

Those jobs in Thunder Bay have previously passed from the original Canadian Car & Foundry through A. V. Roe / Hawker-Siddeley, UTDC, SNC-Lavalin, and the Ontario government, and will no doubt outlast Bombardier as well.

Actually it was Lavalin pre-SNC.