junior43
Active Member
Is anyone actually surprised by this? Thank god I don't use streetcars.........
It's probably the only way to fully enforce the contract provisions for damages. It probably also lights an even bigger fire under Bombardier. There will be real costs to this delay, especially in winter maintenance of streetcars they did not expect to do this winter.Bombardier obviously need to be held to account, but will suing them get us more new streetcars any sooner?
Probably not.Bombardier obviously need to be held to account, but will suing them get us more new streetcars any sooner?
That they haven't may indicate that they want out.I'm just shocked that after such a public drubbing during the summer that they haven't thrown every available resource at the project.
https://twitter.com/TessKalinowski/status/655098871933202432
"Bombardier streetcar delivery delayed again. TTC staff recommend the Toronto Transit Commission sue the manufacturer. #TTC #TOpoli"
There is no way anyone at city hall will be in the mood for ordering another 60 streetcars from Bombardier, and yet we badly need them to keep pace with future ridership growth. Toronto has been screwed big time.
No. Various reason for each manufacture.This is not a unique circumstance. From what I have read everyone from Washington DC to Cleveland to Kansas are having major equipment delays. Are they all using the same subcontractors?
So the question becomes: can we keep enough ALRVs and CLRVs limping along for the 8 to 10 years required to tender and receive shipment of 60 new cars from another manufacturer? Because honestly, that seems like the only option at this point.There is no way anyone at city hall will be in the mood for ordering another 60 streetcars from Bombardier, and yet we badly need them to keep pace with future ridership growth. Toronto has been screwed big time.
So the question becomes: can we keep enough ALRVs and CLRVs limping along for the 8 to 10 years required to tender and receive shipment of 60 new cars from another manufacturer? Because honestly, that seems like the only option at this point.
I'm going to guess that they'll add the 10 cars to the ALRV rebuild. They should be good for at least another 10 years if the electronics don't quit.
If they are losing money on each car, they might well be thinking it's better to just pay the $50 million penalty, and walk away.