TTC Cartography, Signage, and Wayfinding

[6ixGod]

Sorry, but when this U-dip happens...

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These need to be retired.

Honestly.....at this point they should just open a competition up and let people figure out what's the best way to visualise Toronto's transport system.

I've also hated that these maps don't show which streetcars service what station.

 

[6ixGod]

In my opinion the orientation of Toronto should match that of true north.

Not a big fan of the black background, but this is probably the best way to accurately represent everything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TransitDiagrams/s/lU99X1ixuo

 

[Divas S.]

At this pointthey should just buy some LCDs from aliexpress it would probably cost the same amount to the fix the LED placement. Hell, put an occasional ad and it will eventually pay for itself

 

[2323]

Not a big fan of the black background, but this is probably the best way to accurately represent everything.

I would take "accurate" with a grain of salt. This map seems to imply Hamilton is a quick jaunt away from Kipling, and that VMC is almost as far north as Aurora. Not to mention the stop spacing on the subways looks the same whether downtown or in the suburbs...

 

[Dan416]

Geographically accurate won't look good on a subway map. Besides if you want that, you have Google Maps transit layer.

 

[ViewerOfToronto]

Also I don’t know if this counts, but some buses are getting those updated LCD display format. They don’t work though so we have yet to see an activation. (primarily the 94xx series)

 

[KhalilHeron]

New maps are online

https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_SubwayStreetcarMap_2021-11.pdf?rev=421c5a05d0dc4a79a358b77678a550b5

https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_SystemMap_2024-03.pdf?rev=fc1a77c6d4da4fd8a0b9631572f5dce7

https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_BlueNightNetworkMap_2024-03.pdf?rev=49abbee6fc62465689876455ae3f5be6

 

[ShonTron]

At least this one lines up the stations on Line 1.

But again, it's really silly to have the streetcars on the same map as the subway as they're really the equivalent of local bus routes.

 

[KhalilHeron]

I mean these are mostly on board trains where there is another subway map without the streetcars. Weird that it's the only map available online though

 

[suspenderpianoman]

New maps are online
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Felt like this day would never come!

Couple of other subtle changes on the main network map I have feelings about:
Pros
-switching the GO lines to their two-letter abbreviations and getting their own box in the key
-putting accessible stations icon inside the circle like the black-background rail map

Cons
-removed the "intermodal station" trim, not as easy to spot when it's a station with a lot of bus lines around
-on the Blue Night map, they removed last subway train times (though "Vaughan/Finch" text is still visible below Union in the inner harbour...), I would assume this is because the soft opening for Finch West would look odd ending at 10pm vs the subway times

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

New maps are online
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https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_SubwayStreetcarMap_2021-11.pdf?rev=421c5a05d0dc4a79a358b77678a550b5

https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_SystemMap_2024-03.pdf?rev=fc1a77c6d4da4fd8a0b9631572f5dce7

https://cdn.ttc.ca/-/media/Project/TTC/DevProto/Images/Home/Routes-and-Schedules/Landing-page-pdfs/TTC_BlueNightNetworkMap_2024-03.pdf?rev=49abbee6fc62465689876455ae3f5be6

Oh, the TTC is using "fantasy maps" now? Now, how about "real" maps that reflects real-time.

 

[Dan416]

I think the wheelchair symbol makes the lines not very visually appealing. Since most of the stations are accessible, maybe they should just highlight the ones that aren't accessible and leave the rest in white.

 

[APTA-2048]

I think the wheelchair symbol makes the lines not very visually appealing. Since most of the stations are accessible, maybe they should just highlight the ones that aren't accessible and leave the rest in white.

I think that would be more confusing. They could put the wheelchair symbol next to the station name, though, like New York.

 

[Kyle Campbell]

At least this one lines up the stations on Line 1.

But again, it's really silly to have the streetcars on the same map as the subway as they're really the equivalent of local bus routes.

Visitors to Toronto are far more likely to use a streetcar then a bus even though to the locals it's all kind of the same.

You could argue only the LRT-like streetcars count such as St Clair and waterfront/Spadina

 

[Racer_77]

On the website, they've replaced the subway icon with Metrolinx's version: