Mind_the_gap
Active Member
What screwed my OCD the most is they show: Yonge, Front, University, Spadina, Allen - but Jane isn't shown!
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TTC Cartography, Signage, and Wayfinding
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KhalilHeron
Active Member
lol that annoyed me too. Find it funny also that front is included but bloor and keele arent despite running along those streets for longer.
nfitz
Superstar
I'll increase the trigger by pointing out to you that Queens Park isn't labelled either.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Certainly looks like more of an actual system with the 5 and 6 lines added, though, even if they're still partially imaginary.
Mind_the_gap
Active Member
Thought this would be worthwhile reposting in a more prominent thread:
If we seriously have to rename Pioneer Village again, then Maria Augimeri or her estate should cover the costs from renaming it from Steeles West originally.
nottoban
New Member
One of the biggest challenges is that historical indigenous names don't necessarily map onto places like subway stations particularly easily as how indigenous communities have named certain locations isn’t aligned with the current streetgrid. For individual locations, such as parks, this doesn't necessarily matter as they are something of a one off, but there may not be a unique historical name for the location of each individual station. Honouring territory may prove equally challenging as there is not necessarily consensus among indigenous groups as to which locations fall within each community’s territory; multiple communities may have valid claims that a location falls within their traditional lands, and it would be problematic for a government agency to attempt to make a appropriate determination.
Even if the indigenous communities were asked to create a new name for station or series of stations, both issues still remain and in either case are not likely to be as widely recognized as whatever street names are currently in use so from a navigation perspective. So tl;dr I don't think its in anyone’s interest to try and solve this without multiple indigenous perspectives informing the outcome.
Also I think we need to brush up on our Orwell.
picard102
Senior Member
Who's saying we do?
txlseries4
Active Member
Might stem from an article in the toronto sun last year when they obtained internal TTC emails that mentioned creating policies to rename certain stations, like Pioneer Village, but that same article includes,
“In an emailed statement, TTC spokesman Stuart Green confirmed the transit authority finalized a renaming policy in June, but added “nothing is currently being planned” in terms of future station changes.”
Reads to me like TTC staff have created a plan in case there is a push in the future from a Mayor or the board to rename stations given that there’s a political aspect to the TTC. Seems like a no-brainer thing staff would do to be prepared.
nfitz
Superstar
Given there is no more Pioneer Village, then one can see why it should be renamed. It's Village at Black Creek now.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Just saw this on a T1 train
abovegrade
Active Member
NOOO WAYYY THATS SO COOL
JasonParis
Moderator
Is the Ontario Northland new at Union too?
abovegrade
Active Member
I really wish we could have the regional rail lines partially on this map too. I know some of the x-town stations have them.
JasonParis
Moderator
I find that Montreal does this well.
nfitz
Superstar
I'm not sure how they'd fit. Even the strip maps for the lines other than 2 seems like overkill.
I'm also not sure the point, with the maps on the train walls being the best place for these - the ones that include the streetcar lines.
Montreal didn't used to have any maps over the doors. Did they add them?
The Montreal map on the train walls has always been a classic!