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Transit City Plan

Which transit plan do you prefer?

  • Transit City

    Votes: 95 79.2%

  • Ford City

    Votes: 25 20.8%
  • Total voters
    120
RichA said:
LRT's are almost as bad and ugly as above-ground subways. Typical rust-belt city think.
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@RichA please look at Portland to see first hand what the difference between streetcars and LRT is, as they operate both kinds of systems.

EDIT: Also, while I disagree your political views, please realize that the Stintz plan is far more fiscal than Ford's.
 
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RichA:

P.S. I've never been here under a different name.
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No but you've been on other forums and groups online causing trouble. You do realize that coming on here as a new member, start ranting immediately and load it up with socialist-this, left-that is a dead giveaway and just flags you for additional monitoring, and if necessary, corrective action?

AoD
 
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http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/02/how_does_each_toronto_transit_plan_stack_up/

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Interesting how Ford's plan sees the highest ridership and benefits, although it is at a greater cost.
 
RichA said:
The SRT is pretty universally considered to have been a disaster from the start and they want to continue it? What is not needed are all sorts of (incompatible with each other) varied transit methods for the GTA. We should have buses and subways. No LRT's, and we should get rid of the street cars, their dangerous metal tracks and the spider's web of wires that blight the city streets.
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Do yourself a favour and stop parroting the lies repeated by The Sun et al.
 
Thinking about this overnight, I think that extending Sheppard west to the Spadina line might be the best action, realistically speaking. While converting and running the line at grade in Scarborough would be the best option, seeing as such a strategy has never been discussed I don't see it coming on the table now. Ultimately it is the best lemonade we can make out of the lemons we have.

EDIT: While it does mean that those in northwest Scarborough will get screwed again, it will make crosstown trips from the north faster overall as less transfers will be needed.
 
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nfitz said:
I don't think anyone is talking a 20-minute walk! That's almost 2 km!

I can certainly say I've put on a few pounds, now that instead of walking 10 minutes to the subway, and 10 minutes from the bus to the office; I walk 2 minutes to a streetcar, and 1 minute from the streetcar to the office.
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2km is not a lot to walk once in a while when you are in the walking mood. yet if one has to walk that much to get to subway everyday, it is still a bit far.

I would guess anything within 10 minutes is completely acceptable, which would be 1-1.2km. That means subway/LRT can be up tp 2km apart. Of course not everyone lives right on the street where the transit goes, that would probably bring the idea distance to 1-1.5km in the suburbs.

of course there is whether the seniors should walk that much issue. I don't think that's important since 1) that's a very small number 2) seniors don't take the transit twice everyday.
 
Electrify said:
Thinking about this overnight, I think that extending Sheppard west to the Spadina line might be the best action, realistically speaking. While converting and running the line at grade in Scarborough would be the best option, seeing as such a strategy has never been discussed I don't see it coming on the table now. Ultimately it is the best lemonade we can make out of the lemons we have.

EDIT: While it does mean that those in northwest Scarborough will get screwed again, it will make crosstown trips from the north faster overall as less transfers will be needed.
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i agree a crosstown lrt on sheppard is the best idea. i know i advocate for lrt which might make some think i dont love subways but that is far from the truth. i think this debate has become about preference when it really ideally should be about finances and how the numbers add up. obviously a conversion is going to cost a lot of money but in the end it makes the line per km cheaper the farther you extend the route.

btw im all for a drl subway (which number wise does make sense) and i will never ride it because its nowhere near me. do i hate scarborough? NO I grew up in scarborough. but the numbers dont work and if you want better service downtown we should then be improving the go station at agincourt to more frequent service. finally i dont know why we need subways to go east and west through the city. all the data shows that the work is downtown and thats where the residents are going. the suburbs should have the drl as their number one priority because it gets them downtown fastest and without being over packed on the yonge line.
 
Having said that... Listen up rich. When Toronto was built it was Horses and then streetcars that ran it. Cars were not mass transportation until the 1920s. The former city of Toronto has the single largest amount of Torontonians, and not all live in downtown. Some live on the Danforth, others in High Park. They CHOSE to buy houses near the subway lines. Frankly, why should the guy in High Park or greek danforth pay for your decision to live at McCowan and Finch? It is your right to live there, you should consider the bad side of living there. You talk about elitists who hate cars, has it occured to you that Scarborough is not dense enough for subways? If you have 3,4,5 kids and live in Etobicoke, York(my current residence), North York, then you know it will take longer to get to work. Even in Chicago and New York, Portage Park and Staten Island have no subways. If you choose the suburban lifestyle you get all the goes with it. Good and Bad. You cannot have it both ways. Otherwise move to former city Toronto. LRT is fine for the low density areas of Finch and Eglinton East from Laird to Kennedy to Morningside.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
RichA:



No but you've been on other forums and groups online causing trouble. You do realize that coming on here as a new member, start ranting immediately and load it up with socialist-this, left-that is a dead giveaway and just flags you for additional monitoring, and if necessary, corrective action?

AoD
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Like I said alvin. while calling names is not cool at all, he is not necessairily trolling, no worse than nfitz. Keep him here, we need the debate. Bring him around IMO.
 
Electrify said:
Thinking about this overnight, I think that extending Sheppard west to the Spadina line might be the best action, realistically speaking. While converting and running the line at grade in Scarborough would be the best option, seeing as such a strategy has never been discussed I don't see it coming on the table now. Ultimately it is the best lemonade we can make out of the lemons we have.

EDIT: While it does mean that those in northwest Scarborough will get screwed again, it will make crosstown trips from the north faster overall as less transfers will be needed.
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In the back of my mind, I always thought interlining Sheppard towards VCC made some sense here. In addition, if BD is ever extended to MCC, it would make closing the gap between Don Mills and MCC a bit more palatable.

Of course any such extension eastward would probably be at least 20 years out. The Crosstown and the DRL from Dundas West to Don Mills as well as getting something better on Finch West should have highest priority at this time.
 
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