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Cabin (barber) is open (between Peace Collective and Union Mercado).
I was starting to get worried. I was not expecting them to open.
 

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Replacing those harsh light sabre lights with pot lights alone would make a massive difference.

The lights draw too much attention to the ceiling. Dim pot lights and wall mounted lights would transform the space.
I recollect some discussion on these lights a while ago; IIRC, the 'answer' was that the ceiling heights in the VIA Concourse and these 'passageways" was too low to allow proper dropped ceilings that could accommodate pot-lights so these ones were the best alternative. I agree they are less than satisfactory and make a confined space look worse than it needs to. MAYBE, if/when the 'vitrines' are used for something they will distract from the corridor itself?
 

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I recollect some discussion on these lights a while ago; IIRC, the 'answer' was that the ceiling heights in the VIA Concourse and these 'passageways" was too low to allow proper dropped ceilings that could accommodate pot-lights so these ones were the best alternative. I agree they are less than satisfactory and make a confined space look worse than it needs to. MAYBE, if/when the 'vitrines' are used for something they will distract from the corridor itself?
Looking at some older photos, prior lighting solutions were also just mounted exposed to the ceiling itself.

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Still, they could have at least gone with reflected diffused lighting, concealing the light sources. Something more low-profile than this:
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They even use this lighting style throughout the York concourse, and the long corridor that runs along the south end of the station. The current lighting in the Via concourse really is atrocious.
 

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I recollect some discussion on these lights a while ago; IIRC, the 'answer' was that the ceiling heights in the VIA Concourse and these 'passageways" was too low to allow proper dropped ceilings that could accommodate pot-lights so these ones were the best alternative. I agree they are less than satisfactory and make a confined space look worse than it needs to. MAYBE, if/when the 'vitrines' are used for something they will distract from the corridor itself?
Conventional incandescent and halogen pot lights require a size of housing (for heat disapation) which necessitate a reasonable amount of depth to a drop ceiling. New LED based pot lights are much, much shallower. Looking at replacing some halogen pot lights with LED versions and redoing some of the drop ceiling at our place in the future.

Unfortunately - I suspect what happened is that, given lead times, when this piece of work at Union Station was being designed, spec'ed, tendered and contracted, the LED pot lights may not yet have been on the market...
 
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New LED based pot lights are much, much shallower.
Some simulated LED pot lights don't even require drilling into the ceiling anymore -- flush mount "fake-potlights" -- only a few millimeters profile on the surface of a ceiling.

Unfortunately - I suspect what happened is that, given lead times, when this piece of work at Union Station was being designed, spec'ed, tendered and contracted, the LED pot lights may not yet have been on the market...
Morever -- harshness of LED varies so much. I think full spectrum LED (>CRI 90), PWM-free and balanced light (less blue light peak) should have been considered. The light is less harsh and more inviting. They're widespread and somewhat reasonably cheap now (most 2019-model IKEA LEDARE bulbs are now essentially full-spectrum included in the cheap price), but wasn't five years ago.
 

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Give me a break. I walked through the departures area just yesterday. It absolutely is not dark, drab and dated.
Also, that's a pretty harsh camera flash in the photo purporting to be "brighter" than today's state.
 

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I swear only Metrolinx can get away with tearing down infrastructure built less than 15 years ago - every other transit authority would have gotten nailed for it .

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